Politics and Elections in the Netherlands: coalition agreement presented

[Beezer]

So the SGP sometimes supports the government? I always thought they're just standing on the sidelines...

[ApatheticAustrian]

i don't need to speak dutch to realize the nice lady just countered a question about the horrible losses of her party with the standardized "it's too early for conclusions"-phrase.

[Classic Conservative]

When are we going to get the results. It must be hard to govern in a coalition, when there are so many different ideas.

[MAINEiac4434]

Nos talking to sad PvdA people.

If the exit poll is accurate, a centrist coalition of VVD+CDA+D66+PvdA is possible.

I honestly think if they go under 10 they will take a step back, they need to to salvage what is left of their party.

Historically parties that lose a lot of seats give up government positions and parties that gain seats have priority. It used to be an unwritten rule until Wilders came along.

Perhaps. I feel like the right-leaning parties would have to make more concession to Klaver than Asscher, though.

[DavidB.]

Vvd-cda-pvv 69, just like in 2012. But i fully expect pvv to get 1 or 2 more seats

[SunSt0rm]

When are we going to get the results. It must be hard to govern in a coalition, when there are so many different ideas.

First results will be at 10pm from the Frisian Islands, but they will be meaningless. The real results will start at 11pm.

Final exit poll will be at in 15 min

[Angel of Death]

So the PvdA lost a humongous three quarters of their seats and the SP still didn't manage to profit from that?? Talk about Epic Fail!

[Beezer]

So I guess Labor voters have all migrated to D66 and GL in recent years?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So the PvdA lost a humongous three quarters of their seats and the SP still didn't manage to profit from that?? Talk about Epic Fail!

The Dutch Left is special sometimes.

[Tender Branson]

Overall, not a bad result.

Good night.

[ApatheticAustrian]

could anyone imagine a global scenario which is more sympathetic to a VVD-like party?

zeitgeist, EU crisis, financial turmoil, immigrants/refugee challenge, turkey brouhaha....

[MAINEiac4434]

So the PvdA lost a humongous three quarters of their seats and the SP still didn't manage to profit from that?? Talk about Epic Fail!

Most of the PvdA vote has appeared to have gone to GL and D66. SP is much further to the left than GL and PvdA.

[mvd10]

So the SGP sometimes supports the government? I always thought they're just standing on the sidelines...

The SGP worked with the VVD-PvdA coalition on some issues. I don't see why they wouldn't work with a VVD-CDA-D66-CU coalition. They are very conservative on social issues, but they know they can't ban abortion or repeal gay marriage so I think they would be open for compromises.

I hope it will be VVD-CDA-D66-CU coalition with SGP support. D66 probably wants to work with GL but VVD and CDA probably want to work with CU and SGP. And I don't think Klaver would accept being the smallest coalition partner in a coalition with 3 centre-right parties.

[Dutch Conservative]

So the SGP sometimes supports the government? I always thought they're just standing on the sidelines...

The SGP worked with the VVD-PvdA coalition on some issues. I don't see why they wouldn't work with a VVD-CDA-D66-CU coalition. They are very conservative on social issues, but they know they can't ban abortion or repeal gay marriage so I think they would be open for compromises.

I hope it will be VVD-CDA-D66-CU coalition with SGP support. D66 probably wants to work with GL but VVD and CDA probably want to work with CU and SGP. And I don't think Klaver would accept being the smallest coalition partner in a coalition with 3 centre-right parties.

I agree that would be the best combination. Not such a bad result.

[DavidB.]

Am on my phone. Ipsos: 34% of vvd voters say erdogan crisis played role
81% of vvd voters say it's the economy, stupid

[DavidB.]

Disappointed with the pvv, but glad vvd are much larger than all the others and extremely glad FvD get in; Will become a member tomorrow. Very dutch result. No experiments. Great turnout. And terrible result for the real left.

[DavidB.]

Entire map will be blie

[mvd10]

No changes in the exit poll update.

[Classic Conservative]

The update is the same, I think.

[DavidB.]

All provinces vvd

[kyc0705]

I'll check later to see what the more finalized results look like. Exit polls make me nervous now.

[SunSt0rm]

All provinces vvd

No, they wont win all provinces in the north. CDA should be able to hold Friesland and Overijssel. Groningen is a big question mark

[Zinneke]

I think Wilders, Roemer, and obviously Asscher need to resign now.
Klaver would be foolish not to assume the de facto role as leader of the opposition.
PvdA will also sit this out if they have any sanity left after this.

Very bad night for the Dutch Left. Dude just showed they need a 6 party coalition. Never a good sign.

[SunSt0rm]

In theory CDA+D66+PVDA+GL+SP also have a majority. Very unlikely, but Buma and Pechtold can play that trumpcard in the negotiation with Rutte

[DL]

Serious what if question here:

If in 2012 the PvdA had won 1 more seat than VVD, the PvdA leader would have become PM instead of Rutte in a "grand coalition". If that had happened, do people think the PvdA would have done much better tonight and the VVD would have been the "junior coalition partner that gets demolished in the subsequent election"?