The Results Thread

[angus]

Hey Lewis, how is the dead candidate situation handled in your country?  Like in Missouri or like in England?  Just curious.

[minionofmidas]

Like in England, actually, if it's a direct candidate.  Even though that's utterly ridiculous given our voting system.
At least that's how it is with Hessen state elections, the only case of a candidate dying that I can remember. Back in 1991, the far-right Republikaner candidate for one of the Bergstráße seats got killed in a car crash a week before the election. On polling day, people in the constituency only cast their proportional vote. they cast their direct vote some weeks later, on a minimal turnout o/c. All this so the Reps had time to nominate a replacement candidate. As I said, ridiculous.

[angus]

interesting.  yeah, it's proportional, I'd forgotten.

Given our system, it's like weekend at Bernie's.  Surreal.  Well, if the Democrats can bring out the dead to vote, the GOP should at least be allowed to run the dead for office.

[J. J.]

Any news on Staffordshire South???  It's still listed as being out.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Can someone tell me why the DUP is up so high in NI?  Why, after so much progress for peace, are people voting for an extremist whacko party?  Do these people want to go back to war?

[CO-OWL]

Any news on Staffordshire South???  It's still listed as being out.

One of the candidates died, hence the election was postponed.
Anyway, it should be a safe Tory seat.

[minionofmidas]

Can someone tell me why the DUP is up so high in NI?  Why, after so much progress for peace, are people voting for an extremist whacko party?  Do these people want to go back to war?

They want peace, but only at no cost whatsoever to themselves. Maybe they have still not bled enough. Maybe what Northern Ireland needs is troubles mark 2 with the UK government as firmly at the Nats side as it used to be at the Unionst side once upon a time. [/pessimism]

[minionofmidas]

DUP, easy hold "London"derry East.
SF, easy hold Bobby Sands Memorial, with UU replaced as runners-up by DUP.
Not looking good for the remaining Ulster Unionists...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Wipeout?

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

UUP has a high majority in Lagan Valley... hopefully they'll hold on to that.  I fear for all the other seats though.

We need to evacuate the SDLP and UUP folks out of NI, hand SF and DUP some low-level nukes and wait for the satelite photos to show everyone dead.

[Storebought]

Can someone tell me why the DUP is up so high in NI?  Why, after so much progress for peace, are people voting for an extremist whacko party?  Do these people want to go back to war?

They want peace, but only at no cost whatsoever to themselves. Maybe they have still not bled enough. Maybe what Northern Ireland needs is troubles mark 2 with the UK government as firmly at the Nats side as it used to be at the Unionst side once upon a time. [/pessimism]

I've looked at the Fermanagh result: Who are the 12% of the electorate who voted DUP from Sinn Fein??

[Storebought]

We need to evacuate the SDLP and UUP folks out of NI, hand SF and DUP some low-level nukes and wait for the satelite photos to show everyone dead.

I'm thinking the same thing...

[minionofmidas]

Look again. That "swing" is a purely statistical thing, "change winner minus change runner-up divide by 2". It does not actually provide a measure of what happened. The DUP hadn't run here last time. It's votes come from the UUP.

[Storebought]

Look again. That "swing" is a purely statistical thing, "change winner minus change runner-up divide by 2". It does not actually provide a measure of what happened. The DUP hadn't run here last time. It's votes come from the UUP.

Oh, ok. That makes more sense. I thought 12% of the N Irish electorate was just psychotic.

[WMS]

Labour holds Reading West! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

But the Tories took Reading East! What happened?

Vote split. Happend in a lot of other Southern seats.

The perils of first-past-the-post, I suppose...

[minionofmidas]

Look again. That "swing" is a purely statistical thing, "change winner minus change runner-up divide by 2". It does not actually provide a measure of what happened. The DUP hadn't run here last time. It's votes come from the UUP.

Oh, ok. That makes more sense. I thought 12% of the N Irish electorate was just psychotic.

While that is certainly true, it's not at fault here.

[minionofmidas]

W Tyrone is in.
SF hold, Deeny second on 28%, DUP third, SDLP fourth on 10%, UUP last, retain deposit.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Interesting fact:

The two Labour candidates in BG took a combined total of 90%... and every other candidate lost their deposit.

[J. J.]

Any news on Staffordshire South???  It's still listed as being out.

One of the candidates died, hence the election was postponed.
Anyway, it should be a safe Tory seat.

I thought that was Harrow?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Harrow is all Labour now (large Indian and Jewish populations).

UUP hold North Down: thank God

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Trimble has LOST

[Peter]

Anybody want to bet that he'll join the UK Conservative party and seek a UK seat at some point?

[minionofmidas]

Harrow is all Labour now (large Indian and Jewish populations).

He may have meant Harlow.
No. I don't know why Harlow is still out.
The two Harrow seats are still sort of marginal, btw.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Trimble has LOST

[minionofmidas]

Trimble has LOST

Lost big too. Not quite as big as Beggs but certainly big.