The Results Thread

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OMG! Big Breaking Story from CNN!

Runaway bride apologizes, says she's getting help!

How in hell can they put that as their leading story??
What's bad with the American Media?? is just plain ridiculous.
Has anybody opened a thread somewhere to discuss these kind of things? (not the runaway bride, but the fact that the media pay attention to that sort of things).

The "mainstream" media's job is to distract us, not inform us. If you want to be informed, you have to find alternative media sources.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

She ended up here, in Albuquerque, so I've had to wade through this crap in the local media...

Obviously she didn’t realize that one is supposed to turn in Aluquerque, not stop.

[angus]

I do like the FOX/CNN/MSNBC "projections" so you don't have to wait all night for results like you would have to in England.  "Florida goes to Gore.  No, wait, Bush.  No, Gore.  No, that---Ah, just give it a color, people want to go to bed, we can straighten it out later."

[WMS]

She ended up here, in Albuquerque, so I've had to wade through this crap in the local media...

Obviously she didn’t realize that one is supposed to turn in Aluquerque, not stop.

True. She was apparently on her way to Las Vegas, NV; maybe she got confused and tried to go to Las Vegas, NM?

And that's all I want to say on this overexposed media non-story.

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I do like the FOX/CNN/MSNBC "projections" so you don't have to wait all night for results like you would have to in England.  "Florida goes to Gore.  No, wait, Bush.  No, Gore.  No, that---Ah, just give it a color, people want to go to bed, we can straighten it out later."

FoxNews is really on top of things. They reported the pope had died a day before he actually died.

[angus]

I do like the FOX/CNN/MSNBC "projections" so you don't have to wait all night for results like you would have to in England.  "Florida goes to Gore.  No, wait, Bush.  No, Gore.  No, that---Ah, just give it a color, people want to go to bed, we can straighten it out later."

FoxNews is really on top of things. They reported the pope had died a day before he actually died.

oh, man.  I have to admit, I love the sensationalism.  I complain about it, but I watch all the talking heads.  I think the worst case of sensationalism affecting their accuracy in a serious way was in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of September 2001.  They kept giving estimates of "survivors" and people still alive and such.  Really getting people's hopes up.  It was shameless.  Really shameless.  I think they were all doing that, but FOX was by far the most eggregious in their inaccuracy.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

In other news, Simon Hughes holds his seat with a reduced majority, his vote fell by 9.8% and Labour rose by 2%. Good old Kirsty, I knew she'd cut the margin nicely. Majority is now only 14.2%, formerly 26.1% I believe.

True. I think that was our best swing v the LD's. If next time round Labour put some resources into it (and pick a good candidate again) I think we can get the bastard.

[Platypus]

nine is leadingh on the UK election, as is The Age. The Herald Sun is focussed on Schappelle Corby, but Blair gets number 2.

[bullmoose88]

Al,

The 45 or so Labour seats lost...were they generally "new labour" MPs? or were they evenly distributed between blair's loyalists and the more leftist elements?

(In other words, with the parliamentary party be more leftist/rightist relative to what it was before today)

[J. J.]

Labour is now showing a net loss of 46 seats.  That could hit 50.

[J. J.]

The question that I have is how solid Labour is going to be.  It might have a majority of 355, but there will no doublt be vacancies over the next few years.  Will Tony Blair be in a John Major situation?

Will Labour fragment?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Al,

The 45 or so Labour seats lost...were they generally "new labour" MPs? or were they evenly distributed between blair's loyalists and the more leftist elements?

(In other words, with the parliamentary party be more leftist/rightist relative to what it was before today)

Generally speaking they were M.P's for fairly afflulent and fairly socially liberal seats. In contrast Labour hung on to some other marginals where that's reversed. Go figure.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

The question that I have is how solid Labour is going to be.  It might have a majority of 355, but there will no doublt be vacancies over the next few years.  Will Tony Blair be in a John Major situation?

Will Labour fragment?

Blair still has a bigger margin than Thatcher did in 1979 or 1987.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Will Labour fragment?

No. The PLP is more ideological united now than it was before the election.
No reason to fragment; after all Gordon will be taking over soon enough.

[Peter]

I'd just like to say that I called Solihull correctly and that therefore I obviously rule, especially over Al who said I was mad when I suggested it to him a few months ago.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

especially over Al who said I was mad when I suggested it to him a few months ago.

Biggest upset of the night. By far...

[Erc]

Can the Tories reach 200?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The 15 remaining British seats:
Argyle & Bute: One of three unchanged Scottish seats, was a close 4-way race in 2001: held by LibDems, likely to hold.
Burwick-upon-Tweed: safe LibDem hold
Crawley: likely Labour hold, possible Tory pickup
Croyden Central: current Labour; Labour/Tory tossup
Hampshire Northeast: safe Tory hold
Harlow: current Labour; Labour/Tory tossup
Hexham: safe Tory hold
Ludlow: current LibDem; lean Tory
Norfolk Middle: safe Tory hold
Selby: current Labour; likely Tory gain
Sheffield Attercliffe: safe Labour hold
Skipton & Ripon: safe Tory hold
St. Ives: safe LibDem hold
Staffordshire South: safe Tory hold
Wirral West: current Labour; Labour/Tory tossup

That gives:

Lab: 353 + 3 tossups
Con: 198 + 3 tossups
LibDem: 62
SNP: 6
PC: 3
IKHH: 1
Respect: 1
Independent: 1 (but likely to join Labour)
Northern Ireland: 18

[Filuwaúrdjan]

200? Maybe. Some tight seats still to declare.

[Peter]

Tories now have Ludlow, so thats one of the two required to reach 200.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Tories now have Ludlow, so thats one of the two required to reach 200.

That seat was r[censored]d

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Actually, Earnest was giving the Tories Ludlow...the three toss-ups were Labor leads of 9%, 10%, and 13% last time around...so not really toss-ups, just possibilities.

[M]

Sorry, IKHH means nothing to me. ?

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Sorry, IKHH means nothing to me. ?

I don't think it's really a party...it's basically an independent who ran advocating hospital reform I think.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Actually, Ernest was giving the Tories Ludlow...the three toss-ups were Labor leads of 9%, 10%, and 13% last time around...so not really toss-ups, just possibilities.

Given the amount of Labour/Tory swing in nearby seats for all three of those tossups, I stand by my call of them as tossups.