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Free Democratic Party
 
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Christian Democratic Union
 
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Christian Social Union
 
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Peter the Lefty
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« on: December 22, 2013, 09:58:23 PM »
« edited: December 25, 2013, 01:27:39 PM by Peter the Lefty »

      Helmut Kohl's CDU suffered significant losses during the election of 1976.  Having lost the CSU as an election partner, Kohl's center-right party was unable to broaden its appeal to the center, and in fact lost ground to the SPD and FDP.  It remained the largest party in the Bundestag, but only barely so.  Kohl was perceived by some as incompetent and unfit to deal with the economic crisis, whereas Helmut Schmidt was seen as competent and well-trained economically to face the crisis.  On the other hand, the CDU lost the votes of millions of Bavaria's CSU voters as well as many other right-wing conservatives who found Franz-Joseph Strauss's party, which was now running in all states (against the CDU), a more attractive alternative.  Strangely, the NPD also made gains (though it still fell short of the 5% threshold for the Bundestag) in spite of the existence of a mainstream and viable party to the right of the CDU.  The general explanation put forward by pundits was that Strauss's rhetoric seemed to legitimize the far-right.  
      Meanwhile, the SPD managed to win over many moderate voters who had been attracted to Kohl last time.  They now decided that the other Helmut was a better choice, as Kohl had had a difficult time dealing with the kidnapping and hostage crises which had occurred during the past two years.  Kohl's economic policies had also been widely perceived as going too far in the way of spending cuts.  Schmidt's more moderate approach to dealing with inflation was widely preferred.  High unemployment had also created a perceived need for a more socially conscious government.
      The FDP lost much ground to the SPD due to its perceived rightward shift (even though Genscher had made clear his preference for the SPD).  Some moderate CDU voters, who'd had enough of Kohl but didn't want to vote directly for the SPD, went to the FDP, but it wasn't enough to make up for the losses sustained by the exodus of left-liberal voters.  
      The CSU made a splash as an independent party.  Franz-Josef Strauss pointed to Kohl's refusal to rip up treaties with the Eastern bloc and to roll back Brandt's entire domestic legacy as reasons for conservatives to vote for the CSU, and many did.  A right-of-the-CDU alternative now looked viable.  
      The SPD made large gains from both the CDU and the FDP due to Schmidt's moderate leadership, but there was a trade-off: many of the SPD's left-wing voters now opted for the DKP, which had successfully distanced itself from the RAF.  As a result, the DKP managed to cross the 5% threshold for parliamentary representation for the first time.  

      The CDU was still in first place, but it had taken a huge hit.  Even with the CSU, it would not be able to attain a majority.  An SPD-FDP-DKP coalition, while mathematically possible, was politically unthinkable, as the DKP was unashamed of its links with the SED regime in the East.  
      Kohl originally wanted to avoid a "deal with the socialists," as such an alliance might send even more right-wing CDU voters to Strauss.  He first began talks to form a CDU-FDP-CSU coalition, holding both roundtable talks between the front benches of all three parties, and simple three-man meetings between himself, Genscher, and Strauss.  Genscher refused to tolerate any of Strauß's ultra-socon policies, and the talks soon soured.  A number of spending cuts and workfare programs were agreed upon by the three men, but they met opposition with the FDP's left-wing, which was already hostile to Genscher.  Kohl now realized that a tripartite coalition would be futile, and ended the talks. He then decided to opt for the third grand coalition in West German history.  
      His talks with Helmut Schmidt proved constructive and workable.  Schmidt assured him he could keep the SPD's left-wing in line, and not having Strauss to deal with was a relief for Kohl.  Some SPD members wanted to see Schmidt take the Chancellory, but Schmidt allowed Kohl to keep it so long as he got a "superministry" of Foreign Affairs and Economics.  The deal was agreed upon, and what the media soon dubbed "the Helmut-Helmut coalition" took office.  
A number of social reforms in the way of retirement pensions were carried out, but other benefits, including unemployment allowances, were frozen.  Spending cuts for the handicapped and single mothers which Kohl's first government had taken were partially reversed, but the SPD was unable to have the impact upon government policy which it had hoped for.  Schmidt clashed with his party's left-wing at party conferences, and was angered by the refusal of the party's Chairman, Willy Brandt, to side with him definitively.  
      The Red Army Faction undertook a number of new kidnappings during Kohl's second government, and, partially influenced by Schmidt, Kohl now took a much tougher line with them and refused to give in to their demands.  The families of the hostages were quite critical of the government for obvious and understandable reasons.  Meanwhile, unemployment remained high in spite of jobs programs carried out by the "Helmut-Helmut" government.  To deal with the energy crisis, nuclear energy was promoted by the government as a means of independence from Arab oil.  
      On foreign policy, Schmidt managed to improve relations with France and its president, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, with whom he formed a strong personal friendship.  West Germany and France soon began, as the "motors of Europe's economy," to lay the foundations for a monetary union within Europe.  During Kohl's second government, there was also a great deal of controversy over how to respond to the placement of new Soviet medium- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles in its Eastern European satellite countries, including the DDR.  On December 12, 1979, the European members of NATO, including the BRD, took the decision to allow the United States to build new land-based missiles to counter those of the Soviets in order to continue the policy of Mutual Assured Destruction unless the Soviet Union withdrew her missiles from all Warsaw Pact countries.  It made little news at the time, and did not become a major issue during the campaign.  
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 10:00:40 PM »

      The Christian Democratic Union (CDU) has renominated Chancellor Helmut Kohl for another term in power in Frankfurt am Main.  Kohl is running as a pragmatic conservative with a social conscience, but also with fiscal prudence.  He is promising a number of tax cuts and "monetary adjustments" to boost the economy, but his lack of training in any particular portfolio or field has left him appearing unintelligent during the debates.  Kohl is stressing his commitment to NATO, security, fiscal health, and the social market economy.  
      The Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) has renominated Schmidt in spite of the protests of many members of the SPD's left-wing, who are upset with his collaboration with Kohl.  Calls have been made for Brandt to intervene and either return to frontbench politics himself or to call for Schmidt to step aside in favor of someone at least a bit more left-wing, such as Justice Minister Hans-Jochen Vogel or Brandt's own prodigy Egon Bahr.  Brandt has decided to back Schmidt on the condition that the latter change his line.  Schmidt is stressing that he only entered into a grand coalition in order to prevent "instability" and "chaos" from overtaking the country.  If returned to the Chancellory, he promises to reverse most of Kohl's spending cuts and unleash a wave of new fiscally responsible social reforms.  
      The Free Democratic Party (FDP) has removed Genscher and replaced him with Gerhart Baum, a top leader of the left-wing faction of the party.  The party's former leader, Walter Scheel, was instrumental in the party's decision.  The party is affirming its commitment to civil liberties, capitalism, social justice, and secularism.  It promises to strive simultaneously for social justice and financial health, and is firmly stating that it will seek to work with the SPD, with consideration of a coalition with the CDU only possible should the SPD-FDP bloc fail to win a majority.  
      The Christian Social Union (CSU) is once again running Bavarian Minister-President Franz-Josef Strauss for the Chancellory (even though it would be near impossible for him to attain it).  Strauss is accusing Schmidt of being hostage to "pro-Soviet" leftists in his party, and is in turn accusing Kohl of being a hostage to Schmidt. He is stressing social and economic conservatism, sharp reductions in social spending, deregulation, tax cuts, and anti-communism.  In spite of touting his support for NATO quite loudly, Strauss has raised alarm in both West Germany and other Western countries by utilizing very nationalist rhetoric.  
      The German Communist Party (DKP) is running on a platform of nationalization and union with the DDR (under the DDR's flag).  It is lead by Herbert Mies.  
      The National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD): Neo-Nazis.
      The Greens are a new party founded by members of the New Left.  It's founding principles are environmentalism, pacifism, and social justice.  It is co-lead by Petra Kelly and Otto Schilly.  Its platform includes women's rights, gay rights, socialist economic policies, environmental protection, world peace, direct democracy, and opposition to nuclear power.  All of the other parties besides the DKP have ruled out working with the Greens.  
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 10:02:30 PM »

CDU as usual.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 10:04:24 PM »

I imagine this is getting pretty boring for you lol.  I take it the reason why you're not voting CSU is simply Strauß's personality?
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 10:08:44 PM »

He's also a wrecker, which is utterly anathema to me.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 10:14:07 PM »

He's also a wrecker, which is utterly anathema to me.
That's what I was referring to.  And I'm totally in agreement with you.  I'd probably do the same if the left were in similar straights.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 10:19:51 PM »

The Greens!
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 10:22:58 PM »

Never thought I'd see you vote for a Green Party lol (besides the US), but I'm in agreement, as one could most certainly expect.  I might change my vote to the SPD if an SPD-FDP coalition looks feasible, but even if that does happen, I'm not sure that I will, since we all know that Schmidt kinda became a proto-Schröder in the final years in rl (plus the NATO double-track decision, of course).
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 10:42:40 PM »

I stay true to SPD and Schmidt.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 10:55:56 PM »

CDU, for the same reasons as RogueBeaver.
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2013, 11:02:46 PM »

CSU again.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2013, 11:36:01 PM »

CSU
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2013, 11:44:51 PM »

FDP again - and at the time of my vote, they're the 2nd-largest party.
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2013, 12:32:30 AM »

CDU
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2013, 12:51:39 AM »

CDU, as always.
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2013, 02:10:55 AM »

Back to the CDU I guess.
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2013, 02:55:51 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2013, 02:56:37 AM »

SPD. Though I almost went with FDP. A SPD-FDP coalition will suit me fine.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2013, 05:40:51 AM »

CDU again. This is not what I expected when I started voting on this series.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2013, 06:11:38 AM »

CSU. Hopefully this time we will get the votes necessary to force our way into a Kohl government.
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2013, 06:18:38 AM »


Helmut Schmidt is pretty much your ideal politician ideologically speaking.
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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2013, 10:12:15 AM »

Whose been voting NDP FFS! What a wasted vote!
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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2013, 10:27:37 AM »

Breaking for the CSU this time around, despite my ambivalence towards Strauss. Tired of voting for the moderate hero CDU.
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2013, 10:46:24 AM »


Helmut Schmidt is pretty much your ideal politician ideologically speaking.

And he's from Hamburg! However, my love for the CDU is enough to outweigh this.
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2013, 11:21:10 AM »

Is the right-wing of this forum using cloning or something?  How is it growing this quickly? 
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