Austrian Elections & Politics - Version 1.0

[Cranberry]

I haven't seen a term like this used in proper newspapers/TV stations, that's what I want to go to (well except the Kronen Zeitung, but whether or not you can call the Queen of the Austrian boulevard press a "proper" news source is again debatable...)

Why would that be debatable? It clearly isn't.

Yeah, you're right about that. It clearly is seen as one by far too many people (and judging from his increasingly shrill remarks, also the other Austrian guy), though.

[SNJ1985]

The ÖVP did an internal poll the last few days in Upper Austria, about which topic is most debated among voters right now and in their families:

3/4 said "immigration/refugees"

Just 6% said "labour/unemployment".

This election will turn into an epic disaster for ÖVP-SPÖ, if these numbers are true ...

Like I said earlier, it's a glaring failure than Allies failed to de-nazify Austria, like they did with Germany.

Opposing immigration doesn't automatically make someone a Nazi, even if it's out of a desire to keep his or her country ethnically homogeneous.

[Tender Branson]

New Spectra poll for Upper Austria:

37-41% ÖVP
24-26% FPÖ
18-20% SPÖ
09-11% Greens
03-05% NEOS
02-04% Others (KPÖ, CPÖ)

http://www.nachrichten.at/nachrichten/politik/landespolitik/wahl2015/FPOe-weiter-im-Aufwind-allen-anderen-droht-eine-Zitterpartie;art174240,1969622

[Tender Branson]

Market poll for Upper Austria:



http://derstandard.at/2000022164790/Schwarz-gruene-Mehrheit-in-Oberoesterreich-wackelt

[Tender Branson]

2nd FPÖ-poster wave for Vienna:



"We don't exclude anyone. Especially not OUR VIENNESE."

...

According to the "Standard", the new poster is also an invitation to successfully integrated foreigners to vote FPÖ this time.

Based on the 2010 state election "exit poll", I estimate that this time around 20-25% of Vienna voters with migration background will vote for the FPÖ (in 2010, 16% did).

[SNJ1985]

Based on the 2010 state election "exit poll", I estimate that this time around 20-25% of Vienna voters with migration background will vote for the FPÖ (in 2010, 16% did).

Which particular group of voters with migration backgrounds do you think will give them the most support?

[MaxQue]

Based on the 2010 state election "exit poll", I estimate that this time around 20-25% of Vienna voters with migration background will vote for the FPÖ (in 2010, 16% did).

Which particular group of foreigners do you think will give them the most support?

0%, as foreigners don't vote.

[SNJ1985]

Based on the 2010 state election "exit poll", I estimate that this time around 20-25% of Vienna voters with migration background will vote for the FPÖ (in 2010, 16% did).

Which particular group of foreigners do you think will give them the most support?

0%, as foreigners don't vote.

Voters with migration backgrounds, rather.

[MaxQue]

Tender already answered that earlier (but the thread is long and search on this forum is unwieldy), but I remember him saying it was people who immigratd in Austria quite a long time ago and don't want massive immigration in Austria and people who immigrated to flee religion/ethnic/etc troubles and don't want to be with the people they fled.

[SNJ1985]

Tender already answered that earlier (but the thread is long and search on this forum is unwieldy), but I remember him saying it was people who immigratd in Austria quite a long time ago and don't want massive immigration in Austria and people who immigrated to flee religion/ethnic/etc troubles and don't want to be with the people they fled.

I see. Thanks.

[Tender Branson]

Based on the 2010 state election "exit poll", I estimate that this time around 20-25% of Vienna voters with migration background will vote for the FPÖ (in 2010, 16% did).

Which particular group of voters with migration backgrounds do you think will give them the most support?

...

Not all immigrants like other immigrants

Yes.

Some articles I've read suggested that voters with migrant background vote for the FPÖ for 2 reasons:

* Like the general native population, they are also afraid that the foreigners coming in could "take their jobs" from them.

* The voters with migration background are mostly from former Yugoslavia and Eastern Europe, which means they could vote for nationalist/far right parties - which are strong in their countries of origin as well.

My main issue with the FPÖ is that they need to take lessons from the SVP and Lega Nord when it comes to crude, stereotypical depictions of ethnic minorities.

When it comes to this, the FPÖ aims to keep an eye on their future electoral victories:

The only real ethnic minority which can be argued that the FPÖ is against are the Turks (or other Muslims).

On the other hand, the FPÖ actively courts many of the 1st and 2nd generation immigrants from Ex-Yugoslavia and Eastern Europe, because they know that Nationalism and (Catholic) Christianity and Family Values have a high standard with the Serbs, Poles etc.

That's the main reason why Strache is on the side of Serbia and he opposes the independent Kosovo.

In fact, one of my co-workers (who is born in Austria, but his parents are from Serbia) is a strong FPÖ-supporter.

That's also the reason why the FPÖ got 15% of votes among people with migration background in the last Vienna state elections ...

In this sense, the FPÖ is electorally strategically broader based than the Lega Nord or other extremist right-wing parties in Europe.

[SNJ1985]

I apologize, Tender. I might have even seen that post you made about it in July. I should have just looked back.

[Tender Branson]

As expected, the Upper Austria state election next Sunday will turn into a HUGE destruction of the SPÖ and Faymann and to some lesser extent the ÖVP, while the FPÖ about doubles to ~30% (or more).

The new GMK poll for the Bezirksblätter:



Which coalition do you prefer after the election ?



http://www.meinbezirk.at/linz/politik/bezirksrundschau-umfrage-zur-landtagswahl-in-ooe-vp-und-sp-verlieren-sehr-stark-d1477305.html

[Tender Branson]

The FPÖ has reached an all-time polling high in today's Gallup poll.

Not even among Haider did the FPÖ reach 32%, but peaked at 31% during early 2000.



Also, 75% support the re-introduction of border controls:



http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Umfrage-SPOe-stabil-FPOe-zieht-weg/204809487

[politicus]

The FPÖ has reached an all-time polling high in today's Gallup poll.

Not even among Haider did the FPÖ reach 32%, but peaked at 31% during early 2000.



http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Umfrage-SPOe-stabil-FPOe-zieht-weg/204809487

No surprise, if SD can poll at 27% in Sweden, why shouldn't FPÖ be at 32% in Austria. This is wrecking havoc with European politics.

[Tender Branson]

Another poll (Gallup) confirms the FPÖ near 30% in Upper Austria.

FPÖ-leader Eric Cartman (Manfred Haimbuchner) is on track to win the biggest landslide for the Far-Right there since Hitler.

More from the Upper Austria poll:

* Gov. Pühringer (ÖVP) has a 76% (!) job approval rating, yet his ÖVP is heading for a 10%+ loss

* The current ÖVP-Green government has a 68% approval rating, but ÖVP-Greens could be voted out

[Tender Branson]

A new Vienna poll (Gallup) shows the FPÖ at a new record high in the city and still within 2% of the SPÖ, despite the fact that SPÖ-mayor Häupl gets a 54-40 job approval rating and voters rate the quality of life in Vienna excellent (76% good, 21% bad):

[Tender Branson]

A new federal Unique Research poll for Profil magazine is showing the FPÖ shattering all previous records, by reaching 33% for the first time ever and a 10-point lead vs. the next party:

33% FPÖ
23% SPÖ
21% ÖVP
14% Greens
  6% NEOS
  3% Others

Chancellor vote:

22% Strache (FPÖ)
18% Faymann (SPÖ-Inc.)
15% Mitterlehner (ÖVP)
  8% Glawischnig (Greens)
  3% Strolz (NEOS)
34% Other/None of them

Do you approve of [...] in handling the asylum crisis ?

69% disapprove: the federal SPÖVP government
87% disapprove: the EU

74% approve: the police
72% approve: the civil society (volunteers, Red Cross, charities etc.)

Which party best represents your interests in the asylum crisis ?

23% FPÖ
16% SPÖ
12% ÖVP
  9% Greens
  2% NEOS

http://www.profil.at/oesterreich/umfrage-jeder-dritte-fpoe-5861239

[Tender Branson]

... at the Upper Austria SPÖ-headquarters: They simply called off their final campaign event in Linz (of course understandable, because not even 50 people would show up to this).

On the other hand, the FPÖ campaign events are bursting with people.

Pretty much tells you who has the momentum in the final week of campaigning and who will get epically trashed next Sunday.

[Tender Branson]

With one week to go, the FPÖ cuts the gap in Upper Austria to just 5 points - while ÖVPSPÖ are heading for massive losses and the Greens and NEOS being drowned by the asylum topic:

Kurier/OGM poll (n=811, MoE = +/-3.5%, Sept. 14-17)



http://kurier.at/politik/inland/ooe-wahl/kurier-ogm-umfrage-zur-oberoesterreich-wahl-blau-mischt-rot-und-schwarz-auf/153.690.287

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Tender, can you write what are the relations between Catholic Church and Christliche Partei Österreichs? Their program sounds good on social issues but there is not that much information about them in English (I don't know German, this language is scary) and I wonder what are their program on economy? And  I will really appreciate even just few words about them. 

[Tender Branson]

Tender, can you write what are the relations between Catholic Church and Christliche Partei Österreichs? Their program sounds good on social issues but there is not that much information about them in English (I don't know German, this language is scary) and I wonder what are their program on economy? And  I will really appreciate even just few words about them.  

The CPÖ is only a small joke party that's getting 0.4% in some elections, so more than a few words would not be justified.

From what I know, there's no connection between the party and the Catholic Church (there's probably a bigger one between the ÖVP and the CC) and the CC has also criticized the CPÖ a few times. The party shares many issues of the CC, such as being against gays, against sex education, promoting traditional family values and strongly opposing abortion (incl. sending their protesters in front of abortion clinics).

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Maybe some day in future they will get more support. Thank you for help.

[Tender Branson]

Maybe some day in future they will get more support. Thank you for help.

No problem.

But as long as you have the FPÖ at 30%+ and the ÖVP at 20%+ (and they are taking all the positions of likely CPÖ-voters), no. No chance at all that the CPÖ will get more support.

[Tender Branson]

Hilarious:

1 week before the state election in Upper Austria, the ÖVP decides to toughen their policies on asylum. And the SPÖ agrees with it.

Not one year ago, or even half a year ago (as I advocated it and when in fact it would have made some difference), but 1 week before the state election.

Now that the massive trashing is impending, they are getting nervous all of a sudden ...

But I can tell them:

It won't work.

It didn't work in Styria in May, when Gov. Voves (SPÖ) decided to go tougher in the final weeks. He ended up losing 10%, like the ÖVP - while the FPÖ got a record result. Voves had to step down after the election.

And now Pühringer (ÖVP) is trying the same thing in Upper Austria.

He might limp over the finish line, but it will be a phyrric Pühric victory. And if Sunday's gonna end really bad, the FPÖ might even overtake the ÖVP and SPÖVP will be like this:



Once again, they won't know what hit them. Because they are ignorant, out-of-touch idiots.