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« Reply #1600 on: March 02, 2015, 06:05:53 PM »

True enough, though you should also worry when a particularly firm is a bit too bouncy...
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« Reply #1601 on: March 03, 2015, 07:00:26 PM »

At the moment May2015 is indicating that, with Labour and the Tories both getting 33.3 percent of the votes, the Tories would get 17 seats more (263 to Labour, 280 to Tories). It has previously been said that the constituency boundaries favour Labour, but I guess that doesn't matter so much in the scenario where the SNP wipes Labour out from Scotland, which is what May2015 is currently predicting.
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« Reply #1602 on: March 03, 2015, 07:20:33 PM »

At the moment May2015 is indicating that, with Labour and the Tories both getting 33.3 percent of the votes, the Tories would get 17 seats more (263 to Labour, 280 to Tories). It has previously been said that the constituency boundaries favour Labour, but I guess that doesn't matter so much in the scenario where the SNP wipes Labour out from Scotland, which is what May2015 is currently predicting.

Their forecasting still looks strange in light of earlier results - particularly in comparison with 2005 (when the constituency boundaries in England massively favored Labour, giving them 92 more English seats than the Tories, despite getting fewer votes).
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« Reply #1603 on: March 03, 2015, 07:27:31 PM »

Tonight's YouGov tells the usual picture, but a detail to highlight: LibDems on 5%
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« Reply #1604 on: March 03, 2015, 07:36:23 PM »

Regarding Wales, I remember Cameron at PM questioning time, noting that the Wales had a lot of underpopulated constituencies (almost all Labor strongholds that have seen a population drain as the coal mines shut down), and they needed to be culled for "fairness" sake. Were they, or did the Lib Dems just say no, or did Cameron decide to back off, or what?
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« Reply #1605 on: March 03, 2015, 07:38:59 PM »

Regarding Wales, I remember Cameron at PM questioning time, noting that the Wales had a lot of underpopulated constituencies (almost all Labor strongholds that have seen a population drain as the coal mines shut down), and they needed to be culled for "fairness" sake. Were they, or did the Lib Dems just say no, or did Cameron decide to back off, or what?

In any case, the absurdly underpopulated constituencies of Britain need to be ameliorated at least to some degree--perhaps the only thing I'd ever agree with Cameron on, though 5% deviation is still insanely high.
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« Reply #1606 on: March 03, 2015, 07:42:18 PM »

One thing I noticed: the Isle of Wight has the largest population among the constituencies, and it's reliably Conservative. If it were split into two constituencies, the Tories would have two MPs from there instead of one. But apparently the islanders don't want to split it.
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« Reply #1607 on: March 03, 2015, 08:45:56 PM »

Helsinkian, the parliamentary representation of the Isle of Wight has long been a problem. The electorate for the Isle is an awkward number, too big for one average size constituency and too small for two. In view of the strong preference of the islanders not to have part of the island attached to a bit of southern Hampshire across the Solent, the Boundary Commission was left with an awkward decision in each boundary review.

Under former laws, about Parliamentary boundary changes, the decision has been to have one oversized constituency. Under the present legislation, when the boundaries are next redrawn, the Isle of Wight will be divided into two undersized seats (as it is treated as a special case and is not subject to the normal rules).
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« Reply #1608 on: March 04, 2015, 04:21:15 AM »

Reliably conservative may be the wrong word for it. They are flexible enough to have a fully Indy council, and in happier times for the Liberal Democrats they could put up a decent fight.
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« Reply #1609 on: March 04, 2015, 09:46:22 AM »

The Lib Dems shouldn't worry. Their incumbents are all more popular than Jesus and hence (those who are standing) will all be re-elected even if the party polls 0.4% nationally.

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« Reply #1610 on: March 04, 2015, 01:49:51 PM »

Ashcroft is having his circus again. Bad news for Labour in his Scottish constituency polls. Even Murphy is only leading by 1%
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« Reply #1611 on: March 04, 2015, 02:03:13 PM »
« Edited: March 04, 2015, 02:13:51 PM by YL »

12 polls.  I presume these are based on the "constituency" question.

Scotland - look away unionists

West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine: SNP 14 ahead (of Con; LDs are 5 further back)
Ross, Skye & Lochaber: SNP 5 ahead (Kennedy's seat)
Dumfriesshire et al: SNP/Con tie
Dumfries & Galloway: SNP 4 ahead (of Con; Lab are 2 further back)
Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock: SNP 11 ahead
Edinburgh SW: SNP 13 ahead (!)
East Renfrewshire: Lab 1 ahead
Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath: SNP 6 ahead

Wales

Vale of Glamorgan: Con 6 ahead of Lab

England

Colne Valley: Con 1 ahead of Lab
High Peak: Lab 1 ahead of Con
Norwich North: Lab 1 ahead of Con
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« Reply #1612 on: March 04, 2015, 02:17:57 PM »

12 polls.  I presume these are based on the "constituency" question.

Scotland - look away unionists

West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine: SNP 14 ahead (of Lib Dem?)
Ross, Skye & Lochaber: SNP 5 ahead (Kennedy's seat)
Dumfriesshire et al: SNP/Con tie
Dumfries & Galloway: SNP 3 ahead
Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock: SNP 11 ahead
Edinburgh SW: SNP 13 ahead (!)
East Renfrewshire: Lab 1 ahead
Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath: SNP 6 ahead

Wales

Vale of Glamorgan: Con 6 ahead of Lab

England

Colne Valley: Con 1 ahead of Lab
High Peak: Lab 1 ahead of Con
Norwich North: Lab 1 ahead of Con


For Scotland (using Headline Figures):
Aberdeenshire West: SNP 39%, Con 25%, Lib 20%, Lab 10%, Ukip 3%, Grn 2%
Ayr, Carrick, Cumnock: SNP 42%, Lab 31%, Con 21%, Ukip 3%, Lib 2%, Grn <1%
Dumfries, Clydesdale: SNP 34%, Con 34%, Lab 18%, Lib 7%, Ukip 4%, Grn 2%
Dumfries & Galloway: SNP 34%, Con 30%, Lab 28%, Ukip 4%, Lib 2%, Grn 2%
East Renfrewshire: Lab 34%, SNP 33%, Con 26%, Grn 3%, Lib 2%, Ukip 1%
Edinburgh South West: SNP 40%, Lab 27%, Con 19%, Grn 7%, Lib 4%, Ukip 2%
Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath: SNP 45%, Lab 39%, Con 7%, Lib 3%, Ukip 3%, Grn 3%
Ross, Skye, Lochaber: SNP 40%, Lib 35%, Lab 9%, Con 8%, Grn 5%, Ukip 3%

The only seat where Labour are ahead in is Jim Murphy's seat - who is Scottish Labour leader.
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« Reply #1613 on: March 04, 2015, 02:19:21 PM »

Insert my usual post here (stuck record etc).
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« Reply #1614 on: March 04, 2015, 02:25:23 PM »

Based on the Scottish constituency polls so far:



SNP - Yellow
LAB - Red
Tie - Cyan
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« Reply #1615 on: March 04, 2015, 03:04:56 PM »

If these results are accurate, where else might the Unionist parties be holding on?

Away from Scotland, here's another article about Sheffield Hallam.  I walked past that house no. 234 in the photo earlier today; it's in a very studenty area.
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« Reply #1616 on: March 04, 2015, 04:04:47 PM »

If these results are accurate, where else might the Unionist parties be holding on?

Away from Scotland, here's another article about Sheffield Hallam.  I walked past that house no. 234 in the photo earlier today; it's in a very studenty area.
Orkney & Shetland and Berwickshire most likely. Not many Unionist areas left by the looks of things.
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« Reply #1617 on: March 04, 2015, 06:00:41 PM »

Unionist is hardly a neutral term.
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« Reply #1618 on: March 04, 2015, 06:12:39 PM »

Anyway I note that Goodwinandford have managed to reach another low: spinning UKIP's embarrassing immigration U-turn as irrelevant because UKIP are special ickle snowflakes. They are an absolute disgrace.
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« Reply #1619 on: March 04, 2015, 07:15:11 PM »

So we could be looking at quite a few 'Portillo moments'. The Alexanders, Murphy, Kennedy, Clegg, Hughes...
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« Reply #1620 on: March 05, 2015, 12:26:26 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31742155

I can actually envision Clegg getting a bounce on the basis that he'll come across as the most normal. He'll be facing an uber-posh elitist, a wide-eyed weirdo, a raving xenophobic windbag and an inept environMENTAList. And two secessionists.
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« Reply #1621 on: March 05, 2015, 01:54:42 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31742155

I can actually envision Clegg getting a bounce on the basis that he'll come across as the most normal. He'll be facing an uber-posh elitist, a wide-eyed weirdo, a raving xenophobic windbag and an inept environMENTAList. And two secessionists.

Clegg-mania 2.0? Tongue
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« Reply #1622 on: March 05, 2015, 06:37:48 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31742155

I can actually envision Clegg getting a bounce on the basis that he'll come across as the most normal. He'll be facing an uber-posh elitist, a wide-eyed weirdo, a raving xenophobic windbag and an inept environMENTAList. And two secessionists.

that's their main strategy isn't it? I was vaguely impressed by the ppb they had out a few weeks ago, but their pitch of "adding heart to a tory government and spine to a labour one" just makes them look like unprincipled careerist opportunists .
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« Reply #1623 on: March 05, 2015, 06:55:39 AM »

All of Ashcroft's Scottish polls make sense in the context of SNP support in 2011 (projected onto Westminster seats) East Renfrewshire is a surprise because I genuinely thought Murphy would be on safer ground there. Before people question whether those polled know who their MP is, it's safe to say a seat like East Ren knows who it's MP is (for similar reasons Kirkcaldy showed a huge swing to the SNP because they know who their MP is and that he's not standing)

Anyway, here's how East Renfrewshire would have voted in 2011 (calculating the swing in Barrhead/Neilston and adding it back in to the seat)

LAB 17817
CON 11819
SNP 11215
LIB 1097

So that's approx; Lab 43, Con 28, SNP 27, Lib 3.

On that basis, Ashcroft poll shows the Tory vote down just 2, the Lib Dems down 1 with Labour down 9 and the SNP up 6.
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« Reply #1624 on: March 05, 2015, 07:49:09 AM »

Unionists being the ones who opposed Scottish independence.
Nationalists being the ones who supported independence. Smiley
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