SENATE BILL: End the Global War on Drugs Resolution (Passed)

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Why don't we introduce a new treaty for countries to sign on to?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators have 24 hours to object to the adoption of Amendment 54:52, which is on the prior page.


I asked Duke to do this two days ago, but all I got in return was something about drugs so take that for what its worth.

I just hope that he is available to end the amendment when the time comes.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I object, while I support it, it deserves a full vote.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Why don't we introduce a new treaty for countries to sign on to?

We should figure out the new treaty before withdrawing from any of the ones mentioned in this bill.  Replace and repeal, not repeal and replace.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I object, while I support it, it deserves a full vote.

Why do we need to lose a day to a vote if you support the amendment? No one has said that he opposes it.

Very well, objection withdrawn

[Sopranos Republican]

I would like to end the war on drugs as well, as I feel we don't need to send any more officers or agents to Mexico to get shot over drugs. However, I believe we should reexamine our drug polices on hard drugs. And if we are to end the war on drugs, we should replace the treaties with something that gives our official government drug policy, and states a reasonable solution to dealing with drug cartels.  
I don't believe hard drugs should be legal as I believe it is a public health and safety issue, and it's obvious that many people have wasted their lives on hard drugs. And while tobacco and marijuana may not be the healthiest substances, they do not single handedly destroy people's lives. But if we are to allow these drugs, then they should come with strict restrictions.

[Napoleon]

I would like to end the war on drugs as well, as I feel we don't need to send any more officers or agents to Mexico to get shot over drugs. However, I believe we should reexamine our drug polices on hard drugs. And if we are to end the war on drugs, we should replace the treaties with something that gives our official government drug policy, and states a reasonable solution to dealing with drug cartels.  
I don't believe hard drugs should be legal as I believe it is a public health and safety issue, and it's obvious that many people have wasted their lives on hard drugs. And while tobacco and marijuana may not be the healthiest substances, they do not single handedly destroy people's lives. But if we are to allow these drugs, then they should come with strict restrictions.

There are no legal substances destroying lives. The only things destroying those lives are stupid people (and these idiots will find something else to destroy their lives with) and stupid laws (unless you think going to prison actually helps people raise their kids and pay their taxes).

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'm sorry, is cocaine being defended here?  Jesus Christ people.  Cocaine is a terrible, terrible drug, that should never have been legalized in the first place.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm sorry, is cocaine being defended here?  Jesus Christ people.  Cocaine is a terrible, terrible drug, that should never have been legalized in the first place.

This!  It is nice to hear someone finally talking sense on this issue!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I oppose cocaine being legal given the addictive nature of the drug. There is no "safe" way to use that drug, if anyone around here has actually ever done it. It isn't like pot, where getting high is non-addictive and arguably safer than smoking cigarettes. It is super dangerous stuff.

But my stance is that since we have already legalized the drug, and presumably no horrible side effects have occurred, granted I have not followed things, then recriminalizing it seems like a tremendous burden.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I'm surprised we're talking about whether or not hard drugs should be legalized, rather than how we can help addicts without putting them in the company of rapists and murderers.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

It's a burden I'm willing to take up.  Cocaine should not be legal, ever.

I'm surprised we're talking about whether or not hard drugs should be legalized, rather than how we can help addicts without putting them in the company of rapists and murderers.

That's another step, Scott.  I absolutely agree that a cocaine addict is not the same as a rapist.  But to let that dissuade us from banning the drug doesn't hold weight to me.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

It's a burden I'm willing to take up.  Cocaine should not be legal, ever.

I'm surprised we're talking about whether or not hard drugs should be legalized, rather than how we can help addicts without putting them in the company of rapists and murderers.

That's another step, Scott.  I absolutely agree that a cocaine addict is not the same as a rapist.  But to let that dissuade us from banning the drug doesn't hold weight to me.

Agreed and I would argue that we owe it to The People to carry this burden.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

It's a burden I'm willing to take up.  Cocaine should not be legal, ever.

I'm surprised we're talking about whether or not hard drugs should be legalized, rather than how we can help addicts without putting them in the company of rapists and murderers.

That's another step, Scott.  I absolutely agree that a cocaine addict is not the same as a rapist.  But to let that dissuade us from banning the drug doesn't hold weight to me.

I'm not using this as an argument for cocaine.  However, to let regions decide which drugs they want to criminalize - and not even draft a bill for drug users who need the help - is not right, to me.  Because if we re-criminalize it without taking into account the treatment of drug users, racial biases, etc., then we wouldn't be upholding social responsibility.

[Sopranos Republican]

I'm sorry, is cocaine being defended here?  Jesus Christ people.  Cocaine is a terrible, terrible drug, that should never have been legalized in the first place.

This!  It is nice to hear someone finally talking sense on this issue!

I agree with you both. But I think the approach should be to go after those who sell cocaine, if we make it illegal, not those who indulge in it.

I would like to end the war on drugs as well, as I feel we don't need to send any more officers or agents to Mexico to get shot over drugs. However, I believe we should reexamine our drug polices on hard drugs. And if we are to end the war on drugs, we should replace the treaties with something that gives our official government drug policy, and states a reasonable solution to dealing with drug cartels.  
I don't believe hard drugs should be legal as I believe it is a public health and safety issue, and it's obvious that many people have wasted their lives on hard drugs. And while tobacco and marijuana may not be the healthiest substances, they do not single handedly destroy people's lives. But if we are to allow these drugs, then they should come with strict restrictions.

There are no legal substances destroying lives. The only things destroying those lives are stupid people (and these idiots will find something else to destroy their lives with) and stupid laws (unless you think going to prison actually helps people raise their kids and pay their taxes).

I wouldn't call most of those who abuse hard drugs idiots, but I agree some of them would destroy there lives on something else, like alcohol, for instance. But one can kill themselves much faster on hard drugs than on alcoholic beverages, and no, of course I don't think we should restrict alcohol, but hard drugs as I said can destroy much faster than alcohol. Unless of course they go out driving, but drugs can impair driving as well. A lot of people who abuse substances whether it be drugs or alcohol, have either deep seated emotional troubles, or deal with a high amount of stress, now I'm not talking about those who occasionally get intoxicated, but having hard drugs legalized just give a person who has problems with substance abuse, an even deadlier option to kill themselves quicker.

I'm surprised we're talking about whether or not hard drugs should be legalized, rather than how we can help addicts without putting them in the company of rapists and murderers.

I would certainly hope we deal with this problem in a way where we punish those who distribute these substances, instead of those who have a problem with the addiction to these drugs. And for cocaine, heroine, and addicts of other drugs, we should be helping them by getting them into programs, that for a few weeks they can be away from the influence of the substances that have hurt them for so long, and talk with professionals who care about, and can help them.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

If you'd prefer, Scott, we can put this all into one bill.  I don't want regions deciding about cocaine - it shouldn't be legal anywhere.  I was planning to write out multiple bills, but an omnibus bill isn't offensive to me either.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

If you'd prefer, Scott, we can put this all into one bill.  I don't want regions deciding about cocaine - it shouldn't be legal anywhere.  I was planning to write out multiple bills, but an omnibus bill isn't offensive to me either.

That is how I would carry business out if I were a member of this body.  Whether the federal or regional government dictates drug policy, we cannot let any addicts, in any region, be tossed aside or subject to police brutality.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Scott, you and I are in agreement.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

For the record, I strongly support federal laws to address the issues Governor Scott raised (rehabilitation/treatment, dealing with racial bias in the judicial system, etc, etc).  However, I have not figured out all the details for those parts yet, however, they will be upcoming.  Fear ye not!

[Napoleon]

Insanity in this thread.

I just want to point out that its only because of the forum's demography that Memphis is under assault while these ridiculous statements are presented as fact.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

You mean the statement that cocaine is an incredibly harmful drug that should be illegal?  Yes, how insane of us

[Napoleon]

You mean the statement that cocaine is an incredibly harmful drug that should be illegal?  Yes, how insane of us

Alcohol is incredibly harmful. Prove that low to moderate cocaine use harms anyone.

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Guys, please read. That is all I ask.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

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Whoops.  Thank you for pointing this out.  I had assumed hard drugs were legal already.  Now that I know this is the status quo, I will also oppose any laws that repeal these statutes.  If Senators Ben and X want to discuss helping communities and faith-based organizations curb drug abuse, or crack down on dealers, I'm open to talk, but I stand firm on my opposition to throwing addicts behind bars.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

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Guys, please read. That is all I ask.

Decriminalized is defined as "cease by legislation to treat (something) as illegal."  I can read just fine; I strongly believe that the possession and use of all forms of cocaine should be illegal.