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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2013, 03:10:29 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.
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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2013, 03:11:20 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2013, 03:16:56 PM »

FF. Though I expect the HP rate to reach 65%.

This.

Unlike almost any other politician Thatcher treated free markets as an almost religious idea and had the tenacity and persistence to act on the belief. A remarkable politician, the likes of which only comes around once in a lifetime.
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2013, 03:17:08 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2013, 03:20:24 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?
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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2013, 03:26:04 PM »


How anyone can see the end of the Cold War as a positive is beyond me.  You realize, people, that with the death of Communism, there isn't even any need of pretense about what your masters are doing to you.
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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2013, 03:34:32 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.
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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2013, 03:35:25 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.
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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2013, 03:37:37 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2013, 03:38:26 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

When the Argentinians attacked it they didn't think so.
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2013, 03:41:07 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2013, 03:41:17 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

When the Argentinians attacked it they didn't think so.

And as it appeared, Argentinians didn't quite have the means to achieve what they wanted. A mixture of threat and bargaining could have resolved the issue.
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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2013, 03:41:54 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

I'm sure the British citizens resident on the Falklands don't think it's an 'almost empty little f**king island'. How silly.
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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2013, 03:43:53 PM »

A woman who was told from an early age that she could not reach the heights she saw for herself and constantly persevered to become one of the most important figures in the last century... I can see how some one with that experience would have a firm belief in the power of the individual. I disagree with some of her policies- but I think very highly of her and always have.
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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2013, 03:44:05 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

When the Argentinians attacked it they didn't think so.

And as it appeared, Argentinians didn't quite have the means to achieve what they wanted. A mixture of threat and bargaining could have resolved the issue.

Well, Tony we agree diplomacy could have done the trick, and it might be a sh**thole place to be worrying about, but no country, including the USA is ever going to let even it's sh**ttiest territory or possession come under attack, without an overwhelming response to it.
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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2013, 03:46:41 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

I'm sure the British citizens resident on the Falklands don't think it's an 'almost empty little f**king island'. How silly.

I'd rather have 2000 people displaced than 1000 people killed. How silly.
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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2013, 03:48:07 PM »

Well, Tony we agree diplomacy could have done the trick, and it might be a sh**thole place to be worrying about, but no country, including the USA is ever going to let even it's sh**ttiest territory or possession come under attack, without an overwhelming response to it.

Yeah, and that's this kind of dick-waving attitude (which, as you can notice, doesn't require having one) which makes the world an awful place.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM »

Dude, seriously, the Argentinians chose this conflict when they sent in their special forces.  Thatcher's reponse?  [/once and for all]
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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2013, 03:49:32 PM »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

I'm sure the British citizens resident on the Falklands don't think it's an 'almost empty little f**king island'. How silly.

I'd rather have 2000 people displaced than 1000 people killed. How silly.


Well that's a very French attitude. If I may say so myself.
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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2013, 03:50:10 PM »

Well, Tony we agree diplomacy could have done the trick, and it might be a sh**thole place to be worrying about, but no country, including the USA is ever going to let even it's sh**ttiest territory or possession come under attack, without an overwhelming response to it.

Yeah, and that's this kind of dick-waving attitude (which, as you can notice, doesn't require having one) which makes the world an awful place.

The only one alive who is dick-waving about the Faulklands today, doesn't have one.
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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2013, 03:50:47 PM »

Not wanting people to be killed is a French thing now? You couldn't have made me prouder of my nationality.
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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2013, 03:54:42 PM »

In my opinion- the Falklands War was one of the clearest examples in which a military response is justified... a British territory with British residents was invaded by a foreign country. It is universally recognized as a proper justification for war
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2013, 03:57:38 PM »

In my opinion- the Falklands War was one of the clearest examples in which a military response is justified... a British territory with British residents was invaded by a foreign country. It is universally recognized as a proper justification for war

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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »
« Edited: April 09, 2013, 06:49:15 AM by politicus »


Her attitude in that war was exactly the same, and had the same motivations, as the Argentine junta. She was just more successful at their game.

Can you please elaborate?

"Acting tough" in order to impress her population, regain popularity at a time of massive opposition, and retain power. At the cost of human lives.

Don't you mean, "showing backbone", when a military dictatorship invades sovereign British territory?

Yes, Argentina took the first step, but Thatcher needlessly escalated the conflict to make it a full fledged war.

She did what it took to win, you mean.

Negotiations could easily have settled the issue without having to spill blood over a useless and almost empty little f**king island.

I'm sure the British citizens resident on the Falklands don't think it's an 'almost empty little f**king island'. How silly.

I'd rather have 2000 people displaced than 1000 people killed. How silly.

Being forced into exile is a harsh destiny, and its even harder if you feel that your government has let you down.
Defending the Falklanders was the only decent option.
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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2013, 03:58:36 PM »

In my opinion- the Falklands War was one of the clearest examples in which a military response is justified... a British territory with British residents was invaded by a foreign country. It is universally recognized as a proper justification for war

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