1964 United States Presidential Election

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

You all know the story. President Eisenhower was tragically assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas on October 22nd, 1962. Since then, Smith has maintained popularity, has increased US involvement in the Vietnam War, has poured more money than ever into space exploration in its short history, and has refused to oppose the status quo on economics. She survived a re-nomination challenge from Barry Goldwater and in order to unite the party behind her and cajole the Western and Southern factions, has nominated Goldwater for Vice President.

Blue - President Margaret Chase Smith of Maine
Red - Senator Barry M. Goldwater of Arizona
Green - Governor Nelson Rockefeller of New York
Yellow - Governor James J. Rhodes of Ohio

Meanwhile, Democratic Senate leader Lyndon Johnson was easily nominated by the Democrats and has reluctantly chosen John F. Kennedy for Vice President. There are few differences between the two candidates, Johnson and Smith, and their Vice Presidential nominees--both friends in the Senate--have been set up as their parties' attack dogs.

Green - Senator Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas
Red - Governor George C. Wallace of Alabama
Blue - Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts
Yellow - Governor Matthew E. Walsh of Indiana

The economy is doing well for the moment and few people, if any, are aware that there are problems going on in Vietnam.

--Primary maps to come later, have to leave for work--

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Neither Smith nor Johnson are that great, but I'm a Democrat and I like Medicare. Also JFK is muuuuuuuch better than Goldwater.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Also, we can see the results. It's 1-1-1.

[Donerail]

Unpledged: Sen. J. William Fulbright (D-AR)/Sen. Wayne Morse (D-OR)

Just as a note, both these folks opposed the war.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

We haven't been able to see the results like this since 50 years ago. At least there's not a remove vote option.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Also, liberals: don't be fooled into voting for Smith because of LBJ and Vietnam. She's escalated fighting there so far, so if you care about it that much then vote unpledged.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Unpledged: Wayne Morse/Ralph Yarbororugh - A liberal unpledged electors protest candidacy

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Also, liberals: don't be fooled into voting for Smith because of LBJ and Vietnam. She's escalated fighting there so far, so if you care about it that much then vote unpledged.

But keep in mind that both Fulbright and Russell were segregationists. If you're like Sjoyce and care more about war then civil rights and health care for the elderly, then you can vote for them. Otherwise there's no good reason to do so.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Unpledged electors for Fulbright/Morse.

[Napoleon]

Damn I want to remove my vote. I forgot to check the VPs and accidentally voted for Smith. I don't see how she keeps her left wing domestic policy with that nut on the ticket.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Also, liberals: don't be fooled into voting for Smith because of LBJ and Vietnam. She's escalated fighting there so far, so if you care about it that much then vote unpledged.

But keep in mind that both Fulbright and Russell were segregationists. If you're like Sjoyce and care more about war then civil rights and health care for the elderly, then you can vote for them. Otherwise there's no good reason to do so.

I dislike Wallace for reasons other than racism, but in the context of this timeline, which is undoubtedly far more progressive on racial issues, I could certainly get behind Fulbright.

[Napoleon]

Ah, oh well, McCarthy/Kennedy in 68!

[Kaine for Senate '18]

LBJ

[Goldwater]

Smith/Goldwater!

[OAM]

The seeing the votes might have been an accident if Cathcon was in a hurry.

[Donerail]

Also, liberals: don't be fooled into voting for Smith because of LBJ and Vietnam. She's escalated fighting there so far, so if you care about it that much then vote unpledged.

But keep in mind that both Fulbright and Russell were segregationists. If you're like Sjoyce and care more about war then civil rights and health care for the elderly, then you can vote for them. Otherwise there's no good reason to do so.

I talked to Cath about this when we did unpledged electors earlier - it seems that we can get folks who could plausibly have been nominated but not ones completely out of left field. For instance, we can sub in Fulbright or Chandler, but not McCarthy.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

LBJ. Medicare/Medicaid would be great.

[Maxwell]

Smith/Goldwater!

[JerryArkansas]

Unpledged: Sen. J. William Fulbright (D-AR)/Sen. Wayne Morse (D-OR)

[Gass3268]

LBJ

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

If Smith wins because Democrats don't want Vietnam, stabbings are in order.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Do you guys really want open segregationists in the White House? I thought we were past that.

[Sewer]

Unpledged!

Do you guys really want open segregationists in the White House? I thought we were past that.

Do you really want war in Vietnam?

[Gass3268]

Unpledged!

Do you guys really want open segregationists in the White House? I thought we were past that.

Do you really want war in Vietnam?

Doesn't matter who we elect, its going to happen. Also I'd rather have war in Vietnam then a open segregationists in the White House.

[Sewer]

Doesn't matter who we elect, its going to happen.

Defeatist!