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« Reply #975 on: November 24, 2021, 01:22:00 PM »

Well that was fun.

Magdalena Andersson was elected Sweden's first female PM with the mandate of forming a coalition government between the Social Democrats and the Greens. Seven hours or so later she hands in her resignation to the Speaker, asking to be put before a new vote in the Riksdag, with a mandate to form a Social Democratic minority government.

Does she need to really do this? Can't she just sack the Green ministers and replace them with Social Democratic ministers?
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« Reply #976 on: November 24, 2021, 01:23:51 PM »

Well that was fun.

Magdalena Andersson was elected Sweden's first female PM with the mandate of forming a coalition government between the Social Democrats and the Greens. Seven hours or so later she hands in her resignation to the Speaker, asking to be put before a new vote in the Riksdag, with a mandate to form a Social Democratic minority government.

Does she need to really do this? Can't she just sack the Green ministers and replace them with Social Democratic ministers?

Not if she was "elected with the mandate of forming a coalition government between the Social Democrats and the Greens".
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« Reply #977 on: November 24, 2021, 01:25:00 PM »

Well that was fun.

Magdalena Andersson was elected Sweden's first female PM with the mandate of forming a coalition government between the Social Democrats and the Greens. Seven hours or so later she hands in her resignation to the Speaker, asking to be put before a new vote in the Riksdag, with a mandate to form a Social Democratic minority government.

Does she need to really do this? Can't she just sack the Green ministers and replace them with Social Democratic ministers?

She should refuse to take power with the ultra-right budget she is given and put 100% of the blame on the party called "Center". They backstabbed her every step on the way.
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« Reply #978 on: November 24, 2021, 01:30:50 PM »

God almighty but the boutique parties in Sweden really are up themselves.
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« Reply #979 on: November 24, 2021, 01:52:39 PM »

Wednesday the 24th could be a Super Wednesday, as the budget vote is scheduled to be held that afternoon but a PM vote may be held in the morning (yet unconfirmed).

This is probably a way for SAP to pressure the Left and Centre together, as it would be strange to vote for Andersson in the morning and then vote to defeat her government in the afternoon.

This is a pretty risky move, because V and/or C could carry out their threats to vote down Andersson and/or the budget.

Whoever came up with this Galaxy brain idea deserves a raise.
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« Reply #980 on: November 24, 2021, 01:59:55 PM »

Well that was fun.

Magdalena Andersson was elected Sweden's first female PM with the mandate of forming a coalition government between the Social Democrats and the Greens. Seven hours or so later she hands in her resignation to the Speaker, asking to be put before a new vote in the Riksdag, with a mandate to form a Social Democratic minority government.

Does she need to really do this? Can't she just sack the Green ministers and replace them with Social Democratic ministers?

Well, technically the constitution doesn't specify that she has to do this, but parliamentary convention and the way the constitution has been interpreted dictates that any time a party leaves a coalition government, the entire government should resign and a new government formation process should be initiated by the Speaker.

So she seems to be very careful with running everything by the books. If she had decided to stay on she would've been guaranteed to face accusations of illegitimacy and an immediate no confidence vote from the Moderates. I guess she thought that this was the better alternative.

My guess is that things will move relatively quickly now. It's quite possible that the Speaker proposes before parliament again by tomorrow afternoon. After the Speaker's presented his proposal before the Riksdag two days needs to pass before a vote can be held, so my guess is that she will be elected by Monday at the earliest. Unless the Speaker decides to call the Riksdag in on Saturday, but I don't think he believes the situation warrants it.
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« Reply #981 on: November 24, 2021, 02:01:08 PM »

God almighty but the boutique parties in Sweden really are up themselves.
There are lots of factors contributing to the slow-motion political crisis Sweden's been in over the last few years, but a massively underpriced one is that Annie Lööf is just absolutely, incredibly insufferable.
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« Reply #982 on: November 24, 2021, 02:18:05 PM »

God almighty but the boutique parties in Sweden really are up themselves.
There are lots of factors contributing to the slow-motion political crisis Sweden's been in over the last few years, but a massively underpriced one is that Annie Lööf is just absolutely, incredibly insufferable.

Hopefully, both the left and right hate her now, so the next clear majority will hopefully use their power to screw Centre and especially Loof over.
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« Reply #983 on: November 24, 2021, 02:22:34 PM »

God almighty but the boutique parties in Sweden really are up themselves.
There are lots of factors contributing to the slow-motion political crisis Sweden's been in over the last few years, but a massively underpriced one is that Annie Lööf is just absolutely, incredibly insufferable.

Hopefully, both the left and right hate her now, so the next clear majority will hopefully use their power to screw Centre and especially Loof over.
I think the only way for this to not just keep happening at every opportunity is if C start being punished in the polls for her grandstanding.
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« Reply #984 on: November 24, 2021, 03:05:31 PM »

Effing heck
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« Reply #985 on: November 25, 2021, 07:00:18 AM »

Rumors that SD might support Andersson’s possible extra budgets to repair the M/KD/SD-budget’s stop on increasing pensions etc

Also here is what C’s deputy leader said today; “SD celebrates too early. They will be beaten in this century’s biggest fight to keep Sweden free from the far-right. And with Andersson as PM, we can guarantee that”
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« Reply #986 on: November 25, 2021, 08:53:31 AM »

The Speaker of Parliament nominates Magdalena Andersson again to become prime minister on Monday.

Yesterday she was approved on a S/MP minority government.
On Monday she will be approved on a minority coalition with only S.

C, V, Kakabaveh and MP already said they will support
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« Reply #987 on: November 25, 2021, 05:46:30 PM »

So its official that she never actually became PM yesterday?
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« Reply #988 on: November 25, 2021, 05:49:25 PM »

So its official that she never actually became PM yesterday?

Apparently, since she never officially met with the king.
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« Reply #989 on: November 28, 2021, 06:36:57 AM »

Okay, so the Liberals want to table a motion of no-confidence against Andersson over the issue of nuclear power in mid-December.

This is so f-ing stupid. WHY would you invoke a motion of no-confidence against a government just two weeks after they are installed? This is just childish, what are we gonna do? Invoke with motions of no confidence every week in the hope one SAP/Mp/V/C MP messes up and then we have 175 votes against?

In the end, all this does is just put Magdalena Andersson and the SAP in a better position: they are the only ones who stayed calm and stable while all other parties were going crazy and doing a bunch of performative sh*t.

The Moderates tried to convince the Speaker of the Riksdag to give Kristersson a chance, but the speaker of parliament said that were a childish thing to do (and the Speaker is from the Moderates, which makes this all extra embarrassing).



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« Reply #990 on: November 29, 2021, 02:34:51 AM »

Today at 13:00 CET, Magdalena Andersson will he elected again as PM. This time leading a solo S-government
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« Reply #991 on: November 29, 2021, 05:28:45 AM »

https://twitter.com/anderssonulla/status/1465228087721922561?s=21

If Kristersson were PM candidate today, he might have won as a MP from V is going to be absent today as her train has been cancelled
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« Reply #992 on: November 29, 2021, 07:50:44 AM »
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101 yes
75 abstain
174 no

SHE IS ELECTED (again)

1 member of L abstained against the party line (vote agains), one member of Mp voted in favor against the party line (abstain)
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« Reply #993 on: November 29, 2021, 08:00:05 AM »
« Edited: November 29, 2021, 04:44:41 PM by Meclazine »

Is the chick who resigned as the shortest term PM of Sweden now re-elected?
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« Reply #994 on: November 29, 2021, 10:06:55 AM »

101 yes
75 abstain
174 no

SHE IS ELECTED (again)

1 member of L abstained against the party line (vote agains), one member of Mp voted in favor against the party line (abstain)

All members of MP abstained according to the party line. The one additional yes vote was from the former V member turned independent, Amineh Kakabaveh.

Magdalena Andersson will deliver her Government Policy Statement in the Riksdag at 9.30 tomorrow morning. At the same time she will announce the ministers which will be part of her government. The handover of power will be made official at 13.00 tomorrow when she and her ministers will meet the King for a Council of State at the Royal Palace.
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« Reply #995 on: November 29, 2021, 10:37:58 AM »

Is the chick who resignedly the shortest term PM of Sweden now re-elected?

Never officially became PM the first time, and doesn't on this occasion until tomorrow.
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« Reply #996 on: November 29, 2021, 12:05:52 PM »

The Minister for Civil Affairs Lena Micko has just said that she won't be in Magdalena Andersson's cabinet. That brings the number of vacancies in the cabinet up to at least 9, though Andersson is rumored to be looking into reducing the number of ministers.

The vacant positions are:

Minister for Finance - currently Magdalena Andersson (Social Democrat)
Minister for Civil Affairs - currently Lena Micko (Social Democrat)
Minister for Enterprise - currently Ibrahim Baylan (Social Democrat)
Minister for Rural Affairs - vacant since July, duties fulfilled by Ibrahim Baylan

Minister for Environment and Climate, Deputy Prime Minister - currently Per Bolund (Green)
Minister for Gender Equality, Minister for Housing - currently Märta Stenevi (Green)
Minister for Financial Markets, Deputy Minister for Finance - currently Åsa Lindhagen (Green)
Minister for International Development - currently Per Olsson Fridh (Green)
Minister for Culture and Democracy - currently Amanda Lind (Green)

Former Minister for Social Security Annika Strandhäll, who stepped down after her partner's suicide in 2019, is rumored to be making a comeback to the cabinet as Minister for Gender Equality. While Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg is rumored to be succeeding Andersson as Finance Minister. Neither of them have answered with a straight yes or no to the press when asked today.
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« Reply #997 on: November 29, 2021, 02:45:56 PM »
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At this point I am convinced that Sabuni is a plant sent by the Red-Greens+Centre to destroy the Liberals. It's like they're trying to fall to 1%




To summarize L’s day today:

• voted against Andersson
• one of their MPs supported Andersson
• L wants to table a motion of no confidence against Andersson in December
• L is ready to negotiate with Andersson

Very straightforward, normal party
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« Reply #998 on: November 29, 2021, 11:41:15 PM »

If they have a comeback and manage to survive the next GE, it would be hilarious to be honest.
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« Reply #999 on: November 30, 2021, 05:52:41 AM »

Magdalena Andersson has just presented her cabinet.

Andersson Cabinet

Prime Minister’s Office
Prime Minister: Magdalena Andersson
Minister for European Affairs: Hans Dahlgren

Ministry of Justice
Minister for Justice and Home Affairs: Morgan Johansson
Minister for Integration and Migration, Minister for Sports: Anders Ygeman (previously Minister for Energy and Digitalisation)

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Minister for Foreign Affairs: Ann Linde
Minister for Foreign Trade and Nordic Affairs: Anna Hallberg
Minister for International Development: Matilda Ernkrans (previously Minister for Higher Education and Research)

Ministry of Defence
Minister for Defence: Peter Hultqvist

Ministry of Social Affairs
Minister for Social Affairs: Lena Hallengren
Minister for Social Security: Ardalan Shekarabi

Ministry of Finance
Minister for Finance: Mikael Damberg (previously Minister for Home Affairs)
Minister for Financial Markets: Max Elger (new)
Minister for Civil Affairs: Ida Karkiainen (new)

Ministry of Education
Minister for Education: Anna Ekström
Minister for Schools: Lina Axelsson Kihlbom (new)

Ministry of the Environment
Minister for Climate and Environment: Annika Strandhäll (new)

Ministry of Enterprise
Minister for Enterprise: Karl-Petter Thorwaldsson (new)
Minister for Rural Affairs: Anna-Caren Sätherberg (new)

Ministry of Culture
Minister for Culture: Jeanette Gustafsdotter (new)

Ministry of Employment
Minister for Employment and Gender Equality: Eva Nordmark
Minister for Housing, Deputy Minister for Employment: Johan Danielsson (new)

Ministry of Infrastructure
Minister for Infrastructure: Tomas Eneroth
Minister for Energy and Digitalisation: Khashayar Farmanbar (new)

Some notes about the new ministers:

  • Anders Ygeman is probably very happy to no longer have to deal with energy policy and return to the Ministry of Justice instead.
  • Max Elger has been working closely with Magdalena Andersson as her state secretary since 2014 and has his feet firmly planted in the right flank of the Social Democrats, as does the new Finance Minister Mikael Damberg. Not exactly a good sign for people like me who want to see the Social Democrats take a leftward turn.
  • Ida Karkiainen has been an MP since 2014 and at age 33 she's the youngest member of the new cabinet. Other than that I don't know much about her. Though apparently she's a member of the board of the Swedish Sauna Academy, which must be nice.
  • Lina Axelsson Kihlbom is a pretty surprising name to see join the cabinet as she has no previous background in Social Democratic politics. She has most recently been Deputy Municipal Manager in Nynäshamn and is a former principal who achieved a little bit of fame when she was featured in a documentary back in 2012 about how she managed to turn around her school's flagging results. She is also Sweden's first transgender cabinet minister.
  • Not a big surprise to see Annika Strandhäll return to the cabinet, but perhaps a bit surprising to see her getting the Environment brief.
  • Karl-Petter Thorwaldsson used to head LO and he becomes the first former head of the union to go on to join a government since the 1930s. Perhaps a sign that Andersson is concerned with keeping strong ties with the unions when there's no longer a former union man as party leader.
  • Anna-Caren Sätherberg has been a Social Democratic spokesperson on regional policy since 2013, an MP for Jämtland since 2014 and Vice Chair of the Riksdag's Enterprise Committee since 2020. Not a surprising pick, she has been mentioned as a likely candidate for the job.
  • Jeanette Gustafsdotter was an unexpected name to see as Minister for Culture, pretty much the entire press was predicting that MP Lawen Redar would get the job. Like Axelsson Kihlbom, she doesn't have a previous background in Social Democratic politics. Prior to her appointment she was Secretary General of the Association of Swedish Museums and before that she was head of the Newspaper Publisher's Association.
  • Johan Danielsson was the trade union confederation LO's candidate in the 2019 European parliament election. Though I'm not aware how much he has worked with housing policy before.
  • Khashayar Farmanbar has been the opposition leader in Magdalena Andersson's home municipality of Nacka since 2013 and is apparently a long time friend of Andersson. Prior to his political career he was the CEO of a company in the IT sector. Other than a seat in the Riksdag, this was probably his best chance of advancement. There's no chance of the Social Democrats taking power in Nacka anytime soon.
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