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« on: November 07, 2012, 05:15:59 AM »
« edited: November 07, 2012, 05:23:58 AM by ProudModerate2 »


There have been some members on this site that were just relentless with their far-far right wing logic and theories on why the vast array of polling was wrong. They also produced some prediction maps that were way-off, and their total EV's that Romney was suppose to win were like something that came from Mars.

Who do you think they are, and which ones deserve to be told "I told you so."
If possible, provide a quote that really stands-out in your head about this individual.

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 05:17:38 AM »

Politico, Winfield, Krazen, Umengus, Dirks, Hillary 2012 ... just to mention a few.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 05:21:14 AM »
« Edited: November 07, 2012, 05:30:51 AM by ProudModerate2 »


The one that stands out to me, was a new member who would just not give-up. Many described him as a troll. His comments and logic to anything related to the presidential election were extreme and just completely wrong.

This individual was our very favorite : heatmaster.


I could probably quote a vast array of additional delusional comments from him, but that would take a lifetime.

PS: Has anyone recently seen him ? It seems he just vanished (maybe afraid of the election results).

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 05:22:13 AM »

Politico, Winfield, Krazen, Umengus, Dirks, Hillary 2012 ... just to mention a few.

You forgot Cliffy ... unless he is an alias for Dick Morris. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 05:26:20 AM »


Tmthforu94, for this comment (highlighted in bold below) :

Republicans, listen up - If you haven't voted early, make sure to go out and vote today. We're facing an uphill battle, but I encourage each of you to do whatever you can from now until polls close to help make Mitt Romney the 45th President. Think how nice it would be to come on here tomorrow and rub it in the Democrat's faces.   Wink

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 05:27:31 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 05:48:40 AM »


Tmthforu94, for this comment (highlighted in bold below) :

Republicans, listen up - If you haven't voted early, make sure to go out and vote today. We're facing an uphill battle, but I encourage each of you to do whatever you can from now until polls close to help make Mitt Romney the 45th President. Think how nice it would be to come on here tomorrow and rub it in the Democrat's faces.   Wink



That's not really that out-of-touch; he still felt Obama had the advantage.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 05:59:40 AM »

JJ.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 06:06:44 AM »

Some might include me in that category for my gloom and doom sky is falling warnings about the white vote, though I came round to accepting that Obama would win in the last couple of weeks.

That said, I think when the final figures are in, we'll see I wasn't really wrong about whites, just that the racist voting pattern is in fact quite conveniently located on the the electoral map, thank goodness.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 06:14:19 AM »

heatmaster and Cliffy lol
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 06:30:08 AM »

This will be a great list - perhaps we can all message the ones who don't return. Just one time each, but they'll at least get a couple dozen emails sharing our condolences.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 07:35:12 AM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 07:39:05 AM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 08:12:13 AM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.

I always gave NV, WI and PA to Obama, but I thought the latter two were closer.   
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 08:17:27 AM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.

That was obvious when he claimed that a 60,000 early vote lead for Obama in Iowa was a sign of Romney victory.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 08:36:44 AM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.

That was obvious when he claimed that a 60,000 early vote lead for Obama in Iowa was a sign of Romney victory.

I wasn't the only one.  Dave Wasserman made the same mistake.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 03:14:19 PM »

Heatmaster and dirks.
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 03:25:05 PM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.

That was obvious when he claimed that a 60,000 early vote lead for Obama in Iowa was a sign of Romney victory.

I wasn't the only one.  Dave Wasserman made the same mistake.

Admit it J.J, you got it wrong; the polls, the swing states, the demographics, the turnout. Everything.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 03:30:44 PM »

Politico.
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 03:31:30 PM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.

That was obvious when he claimed that a 60,000 early vote lead for Obama in Iowa was a sign of Romney victory.

I wasn't the only one.  Dave Wasserman made the same mistake.

Admit it J.J, you got it wrong; the polls, the swing states, the demographics, the turnout. Everything.

Yup.

Total fail.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 03:35:00 PM »

So far, for me, (FL is out)  VA, IA, NH, OH, CO.


So basically you got every single swing state wrong. I'm very disappointed in you, J.J. I thought you were a political juggernaut on this forum. But I'm beginning to suspect you really don't know the know the first thing about politics.

That was obvious when he claimed that a 60,000 early vote lead for Obama in Iowa was a sign of Romney victory.

I wasn't the only one.  Dave Wasserman made the same mistake.

Admit it J.J, you got it wrong; the polls, the swing states, the demographics, the turnout. Everything.

I just did the swing states.  What prediction for turnout, and what prediction for the demographics.

As for the polls, I think the only thing that I've said was that PPP had a D "house effect," probably in excess of +3 and that Rasmussen had a slight R "house effect." 
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 03:42:48 PM »



Obama 332, 51.5%
Romney 206, 47.5%

I'm fairly confident in this result

EDIT: NY switched to >50% Obama.  

posted that in August.  F it, I win.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 03:43:43 PM »

Has anyone checked on Winfield? Is he OK?
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2012, 04:01:09 PM »



Obama 332, 51.5%
Romney 206, 47.5%

I'm fairly confident in this result

EDIT: NY switched to >50% Obama.  

posted that in August.  F it, I win.

Wow! Really, really good.

Electoral reality was shifting rapidly all season.

It seems like the most reasonable prediction after all is said and done, but the basis of reasoning always changed.

I came close on Sunday. 
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2012, 04:10:21 PM »

As for the polls, I think the only thing that I've said was that PPP had a D "house effect," probably in excess of +3 and that Rasmussen had a slight R "house effect." 

Sorry to break it to you JJ but PPP was just declared by Fordham the best pollster of this election season.

OTOH, your beloved Rassmusen ranked 24th among 28 with a "modest" +5,2% R house effect.
Then again compared with the other gold standard Mason-Dixon which missed the mark by almost 8 points(!!!) in favor of Republicans, Scotty seems like a f[Inks]ing genius.
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