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TheDeadFlagBlues
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2012, 06:06:33 PM »
« edited: August 12, 2012, 06:08:04 PM by TheDeadFlagBlues »



O - 347
R - 191

Obama - 51.8%
Romney - 47.1%
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2012, 06:29:22 PM »


In all likelyhood the Republicans retain the house, so Romney wins the Presidency.

But the Democrats likely keep the Senate, so Biden wins the Vice Presidency.

So how do Mitt and Joe get along?  Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2012, 06:48:49 PM »




Strange things are about to happen in the polls -- and few to the benefit of the GOP Presidential ticket.



lol what?

The Obama/Biden campaign will convince people that privatization of Medicare and Social Security will not only be rip-offs but also put America at risk of another Great Depression. At least that will be the pitch. The Republicans have only three months in which to convince the American public otherwise, which is far from enough time.

I don't usually predict something yet to happen in a political race that has no clear precedent in recent elections, but this is a cautious prediction in the context of a collapse of credibility of one of the nominees. Whatever credibility Mitt Romney had as a moderate is ruined through his pick of an extremist as a running mate.  

Indiana is conservative but not crazy. The poll that showed Romney up 16 in the state is an interactive poll -- and hence worthless because it is so easily manipulated.  North Carolina has been a virtual tie all year and it gets an added edge as an Obama win of 2008. Missouri was very close in 2008 and nothing indicates that it will slip away. Whatever gains Romney made in Arizona compared to early and reasonable expectations is shot.

South Dakota gave Romney +6 in its last two polls and gets close. Tennessee has been in the high single digits for Romney... see also South Dakota. Georgia and Montana seemed to be in reach for President Obama.

Just watch the polls. Romney and Ryan have just re-established the New Deal coalition for the other side with people who never experienced the New Deal first-hand.
 
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2012, 06:53:53 PM »

You, Mr. Brower, have lost the only respect I had for you.
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2012, 06:55:49 PM »

You, Mr. Brower, have lost the only respect I had for you.

You poor naive fool. You respected pbrower?
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2012, 06:58:24 PM »



Romney - 280
Obama - 258

Ohio, Iowa and Wisconsin are wafer thin victories for their respective candidates.
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2012, 07:02:04 PM »



Romney - 291
Obama - 247
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2012, 07:15:12 PM »



Romney/Ryan: 206: 47.5%
Obama/Biden: 332: 51.0%



Basically this
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2012, 07:32:43 PM »



Barack Obama/Joe Biden - 328
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan - 210
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2012, 08:27:52 PM »




Strange things are about to happen in the polls -- and few to the benefit of the GOP Presidential ticket.



Oh come on now...
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2012, 08:29:23 PM »

Somewhere between 280-248 and 332-206 Obama. I'm inclined to think that what part of this range is hit will depend partially upon the image that Ryan develops. If the election strays outside this range then it won't be because of anything currently on the horizon.
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2012, 08:38:53 PM »




Strange things are about to happen in the polls -- and few to the benefit of the GOP Presidential ticket.



lol what?

The Obama/Biden campaign will convince people that privatization of Medicare and Social Security will not only be rip-offs but also put America at risk of another Great Depression. At least that will be the pitch. The Republicans have only three months in which to convince the American public otherwise, which is far from enough time.

I don't usually predict something yet to happen in a political race that has no clear precedent in recent elections, but this is a cautious prediction in the context of a collapse of credibility of one of the nominees. Whatever credibility Mitt Romney had as a moderate is ruined through his pick of an extremist as a running mate.  

Indiana is conservative but not crazy. The poll that showed Romney up 16 in the state is an interactive poll -- and hence worthless because it is so easily manipulated.  North Carolina has been a virtual tie all year and it gets an added edge as an Obama win of 2008. Missouri was very close in 2008 and nothing indicates that it will slip away. Whatever gains Romney made in Arizona compared to early and reasonable expectations is shot.

South Dakota gave Romney +6 in its last two polls and gets close. Tennessee has been in the high single digits for Romney... see also South Dakota. Georgia and Montana seemed to be in reach for President Obama.

Just watch the polls. Romney and Ryan have just re-established the New Deal coalition for the other side with people who never experienced the New Deal first-hand.
 

Ok, I really need to nitpick this post. Sorry but I can't resist

1) I'll give you one thing: The Ryan plan can easily be demonized and will help Obama solidify his support in working class states in the midwest and among seniors in states like Florida BUT...

2) Yes, Indiana is conservative, but what is CRAZY is to assume that Obama will win it again. It could be close, but 2008 was a perfect storm and a fluke for Indiana.

3) A lot of things indicate MO is slipping away from the Democrats. Like, I don't know, the fact that Obama didn't win it under the best of circumstances, McCaskill's troubles and the polling that shows Romney up by at least 8 or 9. Obama only wins MO in a landslide

4) There is no way Obama wins Tennessee. Whatever doubts people there have about Ryan's ideas will be quickly overlooked when they remember that he is up against the Kenyan Marxist. We southerners have a tendency to cut off noses to spite our own faces. (I'm guessing you're referencing that Vanderbilt poll from almost a year ago)

5) I'd love for Georgia to be within reach, but that's at least a few cycles away if current trends continue here. Not gonna happen in 2012.

6) The new deal coalition is dead with no hope of resuscitation.
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2012, 08:46:03 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2012, 08:50:30 PM »

Ok then, time for my prediction:

No need for a map at all

OBAMA WINS ALL 50 STATES!! 70% POPULAR VOTE!!!!
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2012, 08:52:34 PM »

Well, like I said, anything could happen.

This or this could happen..




or this could happen

 


Ryan is a real wildcard.
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2012, 08:54:25 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan

No you're not.  You're being an annoying hack.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2012, 09:05:59 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan

No you're not.  You're being an annoying hack.
Obama isn't winning South Dakota, Arizona, Montana, Georgia or the other states. That's a BS map bud.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2012, 09:10:24 PM »

My final prediction:

Obama - 332
Mitt "Offshore Account" Romney - 220


The will be over be officially called when the polls close on the West Coast @ 8PST.   
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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2012, 09:19:54 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan

No you're not.  You're being an annoying hack.
Obama isn't winning South Dakota, Arizona, Montana, Georgia or the other states. That's a BS map bud.

The American people aren't going to stand for Romney stealing the Medicare and Social Security they paid for. This isn't private equity, the stealing is over.
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2012, 09:21:01 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan

No you're not.  You're being an annoying hack.

Oh, my God. I just agreed with Mr. Romney Takes California 52% To 48% on someone being a hack.
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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2012, 09:24:22 PM »



Obama-348
Romney-190
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« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2012, 09:27:11 PM »

I'm pretty sure DC isn't going 90% Republican though.
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« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2012, 09:42:14 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan

No you're not.  You're being an annoying hack.

Oh, my God. I just agreed with Mr. Romney Takes California 52% To 48% on someone being a hack.

Well I am absolutely flattered that you would take enough interest to follow my postings that closely that you would even know that months later.

I will be sure to add you to my ever growing list of adoring Winfield Forum Fans.

Please be sure to follow me on Facebook and Twitter as well.
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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2012, 10:12:22 PM »



Obama-Biden: 403
Romney-Ryan: 135

And I'm  being generous to Romney/Ryan

No you're not.  You're being an annoying hack.

Oh, my God. I just agreed with Mr. Romney Takes California 52% To 48% on someone being a hack.

Well I am absolutely flattered that you would take enough interest to follow my postings that closely that you would even know that months later.

I will be sure to add you to my ever growing list of adoring Winfield Forum Fans.

Please be sure to follow me on Facebook and Twitter as well.

That ridiculous assertion of yours has gone memetic on the Forum, sorry to say.
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« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2012, 10:39:45 PM »

Well, it certainly seems to be rather iconic amongst partisan Dems.
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