Italy 2013: The official thread

[Andrea]

Monti's parliamentary candidates at the House:

http://www.repubblica.it/politica/2013/01/11/news/liste_monti-50362340/

[Antonio the Sixth]

Grillo got epically trolled with list symbols.


Official M5S symbol:



Symbol officially registered by a M5S dissident before the official M5S could register theirs:



And now he's threatening to boycott the election.

[Andrea]

I doubt fake lists (there also fake version of Monti lists and Civic Revolution) will get enough real signatures to run in the end.

[Keystone Phil]

Boycotting the election? Great!

[SPQR]

This happens every single election,and now Grillo threatens to boycott the election...what a clown.

[Andrea]

Ispo poll for Corriere regarding Lombardy senate race:

Berlusconi coalition 35.7 (PdL 19.5 Lega 13.9% La Destra 1.4)
Bersani 32.3% (PD 29.4 SEL 2.5)
Monti 14.7%
Grillo 10.8%
Ingroia 4.1%

Regional elections

Maroni 40.7%
Ambrosoli 37.9%
Albertini 10.6%
Carcano (M5S) 9.8%

[palandio]

CDX: For the Chamber of Deputies there will be the lists
PDL
Lega Nord
Fratelli d'Italia
La Destra
Grande Sud/MPA
Pensioneers
Intesa Popolare
Moderati Italiani in Rivoluzione

Of these only PDL, Lega Nord and probably FdI and maybe LD will poll over 2%.
Maybe in the South there will be some "Progetto Sud" list which also contains Grande Sud ed MPA.
Roma Caput Mundi was right when he said that Lombardo and his MPA won't run with the IBC.
Though Loiero (the Sicilian ex-governor) will support the IBC, leaving MPA.

The IBC will run the lists
PD
SEL
CD (Centro Democratico)

Additionally there will be the Socialist list for the Senate elections in Calabria, Campania and Lazio.
There will be the "Megaphone" list in Sicily.
The South Tyrolean People's party will run with the IBC in Trentino-Alto Adige (Alto Adige = South Tyrol).
"Mister Preferenze" Cimino and his "Sicilian Voice" may run with the CD.

[Keystone Phil]

what a clown.

...isn't that the point?

Regional elections

Maroni 40.7%
Ambrosoli 37.9%
Albertini 10.6%
Carcano (M5S) 9.8%

[Antonio the Sixth]

Moderati Italiani in Rivoluzione

"Revolutionary moderates"...

...



Seriously?....



...like in, seriously?

Aaaaaaaand we have a winner for the silliest list name of the election!

[Keystone Phil]

I read it elsewhere as "Moderates in the Revolution" though it hit me at first as "Moderate Revolutionaries," too.

[doktorb]

We're going to have a revolution! And it'll be the damnest most moderate revolution this country has ever seen!

[Antonio the Sixth]

I read it elsewhere as "Moderates in the Revolution" though it hit me at first as "Moderate Revolutionaries," too.

Yeah, though "in Rivoluzione" I'd say means something closer to "revolutioning", "in the process of a revolution", etc. It's quite closer to the idea.

[minionofmidas]

Basically, it's Moderate Italians up in Revolt. (How about "Revolting Moderates"? )

[Lasitten]

I'm right now in Milan and seen tents of SEL and Civic Choice. In the railway station there's massive "Vota PD" ads and I even saw one Lega Nord poster. But where's PDL?! It's early to campaign but I thought that here would be more ads and campaining.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Never forget the best named of all English Revolution era publications: The Moderate Intelligencer.

[Nhoj]

I'm right now in Milan and seen tents of SEL and Civic Choice. In the railway station there's massive "Vota PD" ads and I even saw one Lega Nord poster. But where's PDL?! It's early to campaign but I thought that here would be more ads and campaining.

Probably on silvios TV channels.

[Keystone Phil]

I'm right now in Milan and seen tents of SEL and Civic Choice. In the railway station there's massive "Vota PD" ads and I even saw one Lega Nord poster. But where's PDL?! It's early to campaign but I thought that here would be more ads and campaining.

I'm sure that all really starts up once February hits. The PdL Deputy in North/Central America isn't having his kickoff until the second week in February (though the situation is obviously different here).

[SPQR]

I'm right now in Milan and seen tents of SEL and Civic Choice. In the railway station there's massive "Vota PD" ads and I even saw one Lega Nord poster. But where's PDL?! It's early to campaign but I thought that here would be more ads and campaining.

I'm sure that all really starts up once February hits. The PdL Deputy in North/Central America isn't having his kickoff until the second week in February (though the situation is obviously different here).

Campaigning starts this week.

[Keystone Phil]

January 13th Tecnè Poll...

IBC - 38%
Center-right - 26%
AMI - 15%
M5S - 14%
RC - 4%
Others - 3%


Before I get chewed out by certain Italians please let me know if "AMI" is appropriate to use for Monti's coalition. The coalition used to be called "Agenda Monti per l'Italia" but I'm now seeing it as "Con Monti per l'Italia." No abbreviation is listed though.

[SPQR]

Nobody uses these abbreviations in Italy to be honest...it would be better just to write the name of the candidate PM for each coalition.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nobody uses these abbreviations in Italy to be honest...it would be better just to write the name of the candidate PM for each coalition.

Or Left/Right/Monti.

Anyway, the most recent polls posted in the official polling archive (realized somewhere between the 5th and 9th) give:

- Left 39.8 - 38 - 38.5 - 40.3 - 34.9
- Right 23.1 - 27 - 30.7 - 24.4 - 24.9
- Monti 17.6 - 16 - 10.5 - 15.1 - 13.8

The left's lead ranges from 16.7 to 7.8, and averages 12.3. The Euromedia poll seems to be an outlier.

[Keystone Phil]

Nobody uses these abbreviations in Italy to be honest...it would be better just to write the name of the candidate PM for each coalition.

Or Left/Right/Monti.

Or Left/Right/Monti/Clowns/Far Left

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nobody uses these abbreviations in Italy to be honest...it would be better just to write the name of the candidate PM for each coalition.

Or Left/Right/Monti.

Or Left/Right/Monti/Clowns/Far Left

Like it.

[Andrea]

Nobody uses these abbreviations in Italy to be honest...it would be better just to write the name of the candidate PM for each coalition.

Or Left/Right/Monti.

Anyway, the most recent polls posted in the official polling archive (realized somewhere between the 5th and 9th) give:

- Left 39.8 - 38 - 38.5 - 40.3 - 34.9
- Right 23.1 - 27 - 30.7 - 24.4 - 24.9
- Monti 17.6 - 16 - 10.5 - 15.1 - 13.8

The left's lead ranges from 16.7 to 7.8, and averages 12.3. The Euromedia poll seems to be an outlier.

Apparently a 9.5% lead in tonight's poll for La7.

Euromedia is Berlusconi's pollster. In 2006 they were the only ones not predicting a comfortable win for Prodi.

[Keystone Phil]

So they're the only one that got 2006 right?