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« on: January 31, 2012, 06:11:06 PM »
« edited: February 27, 2012, 05:24:29 PM by Gingrich Agonistes »

As interim Chair I'm pleased to officially open the inaugaral convention of the Liberal Party, held in the great city of New York, in the great region of the Northeast. Smiley

Members, please sign in below and we can start voting on platform ideas, leadership, and, hopefully, a Presidential endorsement or candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 06:17:13 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 06:23:22 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 07:38:29 PM »

I am I allowed to ask, very politely, for a Senatorial endorsement, here?
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 07:45:03 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 08:04:59 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 08:11:05 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 08:17:18 PM »

I am I allowed to ask, very politely, for a Senatorial endorsement, here?

Sure. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 08:37:59 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 08:41:40 PM »

I am I allowed to ask, very politely, for a Senatorial endorsement, here?

No one said you're not allowed to ask. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 08:42:14 PM »

FTR, I *think* we need to have our presidential endorsements in within 10 days.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 10:46:08 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 11:47:28 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 01:42:31 AM »

I propose the first order of business is to elect people to our three proposed positions. Chair, Vice Chair, and Co-Ordinator/Administrator. Next, we should vote on endorsements, as that has a deadline. Lastly, we should vote on policy issues.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 05:32:06 AM »

I am now a member of the Liberal Party... I think we have a fine group of gentlemen here.

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I hope I can balance you guys out on economic issues.  Centrism for the sake of centrism tends only to lead to the center of a giant sh**t pit.  But if you veer left at key moments, you avoid the sh**t pit and enter the kingdom of utopia/heaven.  Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 05:54:08 AM »

I am now a member of the Liberal Party... I think we have a fine group of gentlemen here.

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I hope I can balance you guys out on economic issues.  Centrism for the sake of centrism tends only to lead to the center of a giant sh**t pit.  But if you veer left at key moments, you avoid the sh**t pit and enter the kingdom of utopia/heaven.  Smiley


I think the point of this party is that we have basic principles but will judge each particular issue on its merits. I wouldn't expect a strong leftist economic policy and certainly there will be some leftward slides on some occasions.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 04:47:13 PM »

Bumping this for another day to allow more people to check in and then we'll get down to business.
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 05:46:41 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 05:03:16 PM »

Bumping this for another day to allow more people to check in and then we'll get down to business.

Bumping this because it's been a day.
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 05:09:32 PM »

Oh, yeah, this. Okay, everyone, throw everything and the kitchen sink in and we'll vote on it. Napoleon and Scott had a decent platform in the original thread, but I'm sure we can (quickly! Tongue) hammer out some kinks if necessary.

Right, we'll be voting on operating procedure, a platform, endorsements, and party leadership. Anything else?

I think we can handle the mechanic of operating this party fairly easily - would anyone object to a simple structure with a Chair, Vice-Chair and Whip, with voting on endorsements and leadership done via the standard IRV? Smiley

But first of all, I'd like to just propose the following operating procedure, which we can clarify legally if necessary - if a by-law, platform or candidate for a leadership position, or an endorsement, is running unopposed they/it/he/she/whatever will be considered automatically elected without the need for a vote.

I understand this doesn't allow for write-in votes, but lengthy votes on foregone conclusions are a bit of a pain, IMO. Hence my proposal that we should be alllowed elect things by acclaimation in certain circumstances. Thoughts?
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2012, 05:32:51 PM »

I think the Chair, Vice-Chair, Whip system works well, and everything else in your post seems good.

Now I guess the first thing we should talk about is the platform. These are obviously for the original caucus, but they are from the main thread and they seem to work well enough for a national party.

I'm just throwing some ideas out for discussion- don't take this as the platform of the caucus.

- Support for safe, accessible,  and legal abortion
- Generally supportive of free trade agreements
- Supportive of a compassionate and realistic immigration policy, including increased legal immigration
- Support liberalization of sex and drug policies at regional and federal level
- Pursue comprehensive environmental protection and restoration legislation
- Create a prosperous business envrionment by avoiding overregulation

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I pretty much agree with all of this, and it makes sense to use the original platform IMO.

We might need to amend a few things, however, to transition this over to the Liberal Party rather than it's predecessor, the Liberal Caucus of the JCP.

Posting this stuff here so we have easier access to it - not an official entry to any vote on the platform, yet.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2012, 05:35:16 PM »

Do we want to vote on each platform plank separately, or come up with an entire platform and vote on it at once?
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 05:37:45 PM »

Do we want to vote on each platform plank separately, or come up with an entire platform and vote on it at once?

I think we should probably vote on the entire platform at once, but I could see how voting on every plank separately could produce a pretty good platform. I'm fine with either way.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2012, 06:21:41 PM »

With the JCP and RPP dissolved, we are now the only national party! We have multiple members in each region too. I hope we can continue to be a competitive force with wide appeal going into the future.
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2012, 06:33:29 PM »

Do we want to vote on each platform plank separately, or come up with an entire platform and vote on it at once?

I think we should probably vote on the entire platform at once, but I could see how voting on every plank separately could produce a pretty good platform. I'm fine with either way.

I think, if we want to do this right, we need to go through each plank.
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