UK General Discussion

[afleitch]

I of course want him to stay as leader. You can probably guess why.

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I of course want him to stay as leader. You can probably guess why.

Because David Cameron can't win on his own merit?

[minionofmidas]

I of course want him to stay as leader. You can probably guess why.

Because David Cameron can't win on his own merit?

Because it means Tory policies will remain in place no matter who wins the election.

[LastVoter]

I of course want him to stay as leader. You can probably guess why.

Because David Cameron can't win on his own merit?

Because it means Tory policies will remain in place no matter who wins the election.

Is there a workable alternative?

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http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/27/tory-mps-bfi-posh-bullingdon-club

Ahahaha, now I love this.

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Labour back flip on Syria overnight. No doubt someone thought on and realised what'd happen to the 2010 LDs they've gained.

[Silent Hunter]

The big irony on this would be Nick Clegg backing a non-UN-backed attack on a Middle Eastern country.

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The big irony on this would be Nick Clegg backing a non-UN-backed attack on a Middle Eastern country.

It'd be the tip of the iceberg for anyone who's still giving the bloke the benefit of the doubt.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Labour back flip on Syria overnight.

Not exactly, it's more that the media did more than scan-reading this time.

[minionofmidas]

So what's Labour's position here? No one much bothers reporting anything beyond the rumor mill out of Washington, really.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So what's Labour's position here? No one much bothers reporting anything beyond the rumor mill out of Washington, really.

Government line will not be backed unless the UN provides 'compelling evidence' that Assad has used chemical weapons.

[minionofmidas]

A distinction being drawn between "Assad" and "somebody on what's usually (and broadly accurately) seen as his side"? Or is this really about "UN" (read, Chinese and Russian) aquiescence?

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So what's Labour's position here? No one much bothers reporting anything beyond the rumor mill out of Washington, really.

From what I gather, they're voting against approving military action, but they're tabling their own motion basically asking for the weapons inspectors to report back before taking action.

The government will probably win it, just. Plenty of LibDem MPs will rebel and one has to wonder if any Liberal members of the government are willing to resign over this.

It'll be quite embarrassing for Cameron and Hague if parliament says no. We know the Tory backbenchers aren't scared to say no to Dave.

[Leftbehind]

Caught a ridiculous interview earlier with Mark Hendrick where Ben Brown appeared to be playing the Tory, hectoring and demanding Labour's position. I can't remember the last time I seen the BBC interview a Tory in that manner.

[afleitch]

Caught a ridiculous interview earlier with Mark Hendrick where Ben Brown appeared to be playing the Tory, hectoring and demanding Labour's position. I can't remember the last time I seen the BBC interview a Tory in that manner.

Given it's the BBC, probably five minutes earlier.

[Leftbehind]

I would have seen it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Somewhat unsurprisingly things have turned all ultra-partisan and unpleasant.

[Leftbehind]

Jim Fitzpatrick has reportedly resigned his shadow cabinet position from Labour's lack of opposing intervention more vigorously.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Random

(though Fitzpatrick wasn't in the shadcab: just an ordinary shadow minister)

[Leftbehind]

Yeah, my mistake. Chances of the government losing?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The government will win the vote if Team Yellow is as obedient as it usually is.

[Silent Hunter]

Labour amendment defeated 220-332, which suggests that at least 37 Labour MPs didn't vote for it.

[Silent Hunter]

Government motion rejected!

[Leftbehind]

Had a feeling they might!

[Silent Hunter]

285 No, 272 Yes... this is a massive blow for the Government's policy.