Would you rather live in Brooklyn Center or Rogers?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Brooklyn Center
Bush 36.71%
Kerry 62.04%
Other 1.26%

Rogers
Bush 65.51%
Kerry 33.88%
Other 0.61%

Brooklyn Center by far. Rogers is quite possibly the most nightmarish hellhole I've ever seen.

[MHS2002]

I'm guessing by "nightmarish hellhole" you mean it's a conservative exburb. Therefore I pick Rogers.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

the stats are in the link.



that's something you don't see too often.

[KEmperor]

Since I've never been to either of these places, I cannot tell you for sure.  However, judging by your reactions, I would say Rogers.

[J-Mann]

the stats are in the link.



that's something you don't see too often.

Wow, no kidding.

Hehehe!  His avatar is so little!

[MHS2002]

the stats are in the link.



that's something you don't see too often.

I looked at some of the stats: looked like Brooklyn Center was closer to Minneapolis, more of an urban center while Rogers was farther away from the Twin Cities and had the stats of your typical exurb.

(The R-DC is because I'm working there for Sen. Warner starting next Monday...we'll see how that goes).

[Josh/Devilman88]

Brooklyn Center
Bush 36.71%
Kerry 62.04%
Other 1.26%

Rogers
Bush 65.51%
Kerry 33.88%
Other 0.61%

Brooklyn Center by far. Rogers is quite possibly the most nightmarish hellhole I've ever seen.

Can I ask you where you find results or this towns?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Minnesota Secretary of State site

[minionofmidas]

Rogers: 97% White
Brooklyn Center: 70% White
That the kind of statistic you're thinking of, MHS?
Or this one: Rogers 3,600 inhabitants in 2000, but guessed to have grown by 50%(!!!) since then
Brooklyn Center: 30,000 inhabitants.

[MHS2002]

Rogers: 97% White
Brooklyn Center: 70% White
That the kind of statistic you're thinking of, MHS?
Or this one: Rogers 3,600 inhabitants in 2000, but guessed to have grown by 50%(!!!) since then
Brooklyn Center: 30,000 inhabitants.

Rogers: Predominantly white population, fast growing, upper-middle class, voted for Bush. Sounds like an exurb to me.

 

[minionofmidas]

Well, it obviously is one.
Although "predominantly White population" would apply to Brooklyn Center but is misleading for Rogers.

[muon2]

It's good to see that BRTD doesn't hate all suburbs anymore, just those that vote Republican.

Seriously, this shows why a discussion of suburbs is burdened by the definition. These communities are both in Hennepin county, but they differ in many ways.

Age of housing:                   Brooklyn Center      Rogers

Built 1999 to March 2000                42                     362
Built 1995 to 1998                          95                     510
Built 1990 to 1994                        140                     155
Built 1980 to 1989                        960                       69
Built 1970 to 1979                     2,167                       68
Built 1960 to 1969                     2,596                       54
Built 1950 to 1959                     4,717                       48
Built 1940 to 1949                        578                         7
Built 1939 or earlier                      304                       37
 
Total:                                       11,599                  1,310
 
Median Year of Construction:      1961                   1997


Number of rooms per unit:   Brooklyn Center      Rogers

1 room                                          218                         3
2 rooms                                        532                       22
3 rooms                                     1,212                       65
4 rooms                                     1,550                       68
5 rooms                                     2,786                     167
6 rooms                                     2,193                     188
7 rooms                                     1,226                     227
8 rooms                                        925                     243
9 or more rooms                           957                     327
 
The communities represent two eras in housing stock. Brooklyn Center is from the smaller post-war housing plus 60's-70's era apartments (31% of units are rented). Rogers is a predominantly new community with housing largely built in the last 15 years.  That housing fits the modern sytle of larger detached units, and the new area has not yet developed many rental units (7%).

[ilikeverin]

Brooklyn Center.

Rogers is evil.  EVIL EVIL EVIL!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It's good to see that BRTD doesn't hate all suburbs anymore, just those that vote Republican.

Brooklyn Center may technically be a suburb but so is Camden, it's definately not a suburban area and is well known as a center of gang activity.

[A18]

It's good to see that BRTD doesn't hate all suburbs anymore, just those that vote Republican.

Brooklyn Center may technically be a suburb but so is Camden, it's definately not a suburban area and is well known as a center of gang activity.

Oh, well that changes everything. Brooklyn Center it is!

[dazzleman]

It's good to see that BRTD doesn't hate all suburbs anymore, just those that vote Republican.

Brooklyn Center may technically be a suburb but so is Camden, it's definately not a suburban area and is well known as a center of gang activity.

Well known center of gang activity?  Is that what makes it attractive to you?

I find it funny how many apologists for blighted urban areas try to turn crime into some type of virtue, and ridicule those who live in places with a relative lack of crime, as if we're missing out on something that we should be experiencing.

I was actually in Brooklyn Center once, and wasn't impressed with it at all.  My favorite places in the Twin Cities area were Edina (I know how you feel about it), Minnetonka, and the Lake Harriet section of Minneapolis.

Edina would be where I would live if I lived in the area.  It has beautiful well-maintained homes, and is the closest thing in the Twin Cities area to the type of neighborhood that I live in.  Areas like that give me a lift and make me feel good about the world.  Grungy urban areas I find profoundly depressing.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

give me gangs over perfect identical looking McMansions any day.

It's also about aesthetic. The area I live in doesn't really have high crime, but it's rather slummish. All of the apartments are fairly run down. I like it that way, the same way some people like clothes with holes in them. I could never live in any of the apartments next to where I work, which are very new and fancy looking.

[dazzleman]

give me gangs over perfect identical looking McMansions any day.

It's also about aesthetic. The area I live in doesn't really have high crime, but it's rather slummish. All of the apartments are fairly run down. I like it that way, the same way some people like clothes with holes in them. I could never live in any of the apartments next to where I work, which are very new and fancy looking.

To each his own.  Everybody has their own preferred aesthetic environment.  BTW, I also hate McMansions.  One of the things I liked about Edina, and about my own neighborhood, is that it has reasonably-sized but tasteful houses that are unique.

But I still can't understand why anybody would prefer an area with gangs and crime over a safe neighborhood.  That just doesn't make sense to me.  What type of area did you grow up in?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I lived on an Indian Reservation until I was 8, and then I moved to Bismarck, ND (note: check the results of Burleigh county in the Atlas. Blech.)

[muon2]

It's good to see that BRTD doesn't hate all suburbs anymore, just those that vote Republican.

Brooklyn Center may technically be a suburb but so is Camden, it's definately not a suburban area and is well known as a center of gang activity.

Wheter most people see it, there is gang activity in most high schools in every metro area, suburbs included. If there are drugs in the HS, there are almost aways gangs as well.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

there are no gangs in my city, and we have one of the highest rates of drug use in the state.

[muon2]

there are no gangs in my city, and we have one of the highest rates of drug use in the state.

1) are you in a metro area?

2) where do you think the drugs come from?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

1) kind of a "mini-metro"
2) people making or growing them themselves, they got a huge problem with homemade meth over in semi-rural Austin about 60 miles to the east.

[Alcon]

Gangs over mini-mansions? Uh? Why?

I've been around gang members. They are not nice people. Anyone who thinks that hatemongering, murderous scum-of-the-earth would be better than large, ugly houses needs a dose of reality.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

you lock your door at night, you always keep your car doors locked and you stay out of dangerous areas when it's dark. very easy. My friend who lives in north Minneapolis (which is what Brooklyn Center borders and is even more gang and crime-ridden) is having no problems.

Truth is though, I just want to live somewhere where as many people hate Bush as possible. over 57% of the people in my general area hate Bush judging from precinct results, and over 62% hate Bush in Brooklyn Center, and over 85% hate Bush in my friend's part of north Minneapolis. Way better than places where people actually like Bush.

Also, let's face it, would Republicans want to have me around? See, I'm doing everyone a favor by refusing to live in conservative areas.