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Question: Can Republicans beat Obama?
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They'll screw it up by picking [insert candidate here]
 
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The economy has to go into a double dip recession
 
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They can, but the campaign will get really ugly
 
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They don't stand a chance
 
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Still too early to tell
 
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« on: February 20, 2011, 07:05:56 PM »

Well, I'm sad I have to ask this question, but can Republicans beat him?
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 07:10:43 PM »

They don't stand a chance. [/Democratic hacks]



Obviously it's too early to tell.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 07:14:11 PM »

Oh come on TC...

It is far too early to tell, but he's in a much better position than the GOP would like at this point.
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 07:20:39 PM »

He would have to suffer a quarter of negative GDP growth between now and the election to lose.  That's not unstoppable, but he is the odds-on favorite at the moment.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 07:25:35 PM »

The only right answer is "too early to tell"

We have no idea who his opponent will be, we have no idea what the big election issue will be, we have very little idea of what the economy will be like, and so on. I personally believe he's likly to be re-elected, but unbeatable, no way we can tell yet.   
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 08:06:24 PM »

No matter who the GOP nominates, we are going to be up all night, and it probaly will be much closer.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 08:09:09 PM »

No matter who the GOP nominates, we are going to be up all night, and it probaly will be much closer.

Either that, or the GOP could choose a moderate that excites no-one or an arch-Conservative that scares everyone.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 08:35:19 PM »

The GOP will pick Romney or someone equally disgusting. Obama wins, even though people won't like him.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 09:00:07 PM »

No matter who the GOP nominates, we are going to be up all night, and it probaly will be much closer.

Either that, or the GOP could choose a moderate that excites no-one or an arch-Conservative that scares everyone.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 09:53:37 PM »

Obama will most likely win decisively come November, but anything can happen, so the last option.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 10:09:05 PM »

Remember these days? https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=128507.0

Yeah. That was 3 months ago. The political mood will change many times between now and November 2012. If the election was held today against any of the Republican frontrunners, Obama would probably win decisively. But 3 months ago he probably would have lost. So the answer is of course too early to tell.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 10:35:19 PM »

Remember these days? https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=128507.0

Yeah. That was 3 months ago. The political mood will change many times between now and November 2012. If the election was held today against any of the Republican frontrunners, Obama would probably win decisively. But 3 months ago he probably would have lost. So the answer is of course too early to tell.

I could see him losing to Daniels, but Daniels won't win the nomination.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 10:55:16 PM »

We probably wont know the answer to this question until a couple of months before the election. Barring an unlikely economic resurgence, the Republicans will have a better hand - but that won't stop them from nominating a fail candidate who will blow it ala Kerry for the Democrats in 04. I have this awful feeling that it will be Romney, who I could see losing by a huge margin after the media gets a hold of him.
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 12:32:53 AM »

Anything can happen from now until then given the economic situation and circumstances that will alter his chances of reelection.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 01:49:46 AM »

If unemployment is high 8s and the Republicans nominate Huntsman, the race might be somewhat closer to W's re-election than Clinton's but I still don't see the GOP having a good enough case to sweep the swings.  Permanent Bush tax cuts?  Deregulate financial markets? Cut spending more?  Obama is good enough on the stump to shred them in a presidential election with good turnout.  See you in '16.
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2011, 02:25:10 AM »

Obama can be stopped by a combination of a reasonable GOP nominee (not a Palin or Gingrich) and worsening economic conditions.

Short of that, he wins.

but it is way too early to tell.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 11:28:35 AM »

Is this supposed to mean like George H. W. Bush 1991 'unstoppable'?


As I've said before, this is the 2004 Democratic field. Romney, Pawlenty and Daniels are essentially John Kerry clones.

They're that caliber of candidate, which is to say, better than McGovern or Mondale and all. But they rely on the opponent to lose just as Kerry did, because there's little compelling reason for them to win on their own merits.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2011, 11:36:17 AM »

Prediction: Obama wins in 2012 regardless of Republican opponent.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2011, 11:49:47 AM »

The Republicans need either a recession or a genius nominee.  They definitely don't have a genius right now.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2011, 11:51:05 AM »

Too early to be certain, but at this point, lean "yes".
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2011, 11:52:53 AM »

It depends on whether I run or not. Smiley

By the way, I have my certified birth certificate in my desk drawer. Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2011, 01:28:02 PM »

The Republicans need either a recession or a genius nominee.  They definitely don't have a genius right now.

Well, I'd qualify that as 'if the economy doesn't blow up again by Nov. 2012' since the real unemployment figures are obviously in the teens right now.  However, as it stands now I'd say too early to tell for once. The GOP field looks weak and his approvals are simply mediocre (if very heavily racially skewed) as opposed to god awful.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2011, 01:42:41 PM »

Any incumbent with an approval below 50% constantly before the election is never unstoppable.
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2011, 03:00:57 PM »

It depends on whether I run or not. Smiley

I'd support you
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM »

The Republicans need either a recession or a genius nominee.  They definitely don't have a genius right now.

Well, I'd qualify that as 'if the economy doesn't blow up again by Nov. 2012' since the real unemployment figures are obviously in the teens right now.  However, as it stands now I'd say too early to tell for once. The GOP field looks weak and his approvals are simply mediocre (if very heavily racially skewed) as opposed to god awful.

To be fair, real unemployment is always approx 2-4% higher than the adjusted rate produced by DoL.
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