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« Reply #700 on: August 15, 2010, 12:58:51 PM »

Benishek was the teabagger right?
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« Reply #701 on: August 15, 2010, 01:49:21 PM »


Yes. It sucks. But there are being a string of disappointments as seen through the lens of this particular Pubbie.  All of this positive reinforcement of the nutter wing is discouraging and demoralizing.
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« Reply #702 on: August 15, 2010, 02:30:18 PM »


Yes. It sucks. But there are being a string of disappointments as seen through the lens of this particular Pubbie.  All of this positive reinforcement of the nutter wing is discouraging and demoralizing.

From what I've read (linked a while back), due to geography, he'll probably make the better Republican candidate in November, though.  Allen was a troll (from under the bridge on the main part of Michigan).  Benishek is a Yooper from the Western UP.  Yoopers vote for other Yoopers, but aren't as likely to vote for a troll.  MI-01 trolls are more Republican and will vote for Yoopers. 

Stupak is a Yooper from the Western UP on the Wisconsin border.  The Democrat nominee in this race is a Yooper from the Sault Ste. Marie area.
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« Reply #703 on: August 15, 2010, 03:07:41 PM »

cinyc, as someone who knows little to nothing about Michigan (and especially the UP), I have no idea what you just said. Yooper? Troll?
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« Reply #704 on: August 15, 2010, 03:16:22 PM »

People from the UP ("Yoo Pee") are nicknamed Yoopers.  And cinyc explained the meaning of 'trolls' in this context already.
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« Reply #705 on: August 15, 2010, 03:50:36 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2010, 10:51:00 PM by cinyc »

cinyc, as someone who knows little to nothing about Michigan (and especially the UP), I have no idea what you just said. Yooper? Troll?

The Upper Peninsula is the part of Michigan that is attached to Wisconsin and is separated from the rest of Michigan - which Michigan got as a consolation prize for ceding the Toledo area to Ohio.  There's a bridge that separates the Upper Peninsula of Michigan from the mainland called the Mackinac Bridge.   People from the Upper Peninsula are called "Yoopers".  They call the mainlanders in MI-01 "trolls", since they live under the bridge, geographically speaking.

Allen is from the mainland part of the district.  Benishek is from the Western UP (like the current incumbent, Stupak).  The Democratic nominee is from the Eastern UP and represents both the Eastern UP and parts of mainland Northern Michigan at the state level.
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« Reply #706 on: August 17, 2010, 07:15:56 AM »

Results links for tonight's primaries: WA | WY

Wyoming closes at 9 ET, while Washington closes at 11. Of course, based on the past performance of Washington's vote-by-mail system, it'll probably take forever to get the votes counted.
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« Reply #707 on: August 17, 2010, 08:01:48 AM »


Yes. It sucks. But there are being a string of disappointments as seen through the lens of this particular Pubbie.  All of this positive reinforcement of the nutter wing is discouraging and demoralizing.

From what I've read (linked a while back), due to geography, he'll probably make the better Republican candidate in November, though.  Allen was a troll (from under the bridge on the main part of Michigan).  Benishek is a Yooper from the Western UP.  Yoopers vote for other Yoopers, but aren't as likely to vote for a troll.  MI-01 trolls are more Republican and will vote for Yoopers. 

Stupak is a Yooper from the Western UP on the Wisconsin border.  The Democrat nominee in this race is a Yooper from the Sault Ste. Marie area.

To a certain extent that's true, yes, although the majority of the district's population is actually in the LP, and thus closer to and more familiar with McDowell than Benishek.

Benishek is far more conservative. I guess it's up to the individual to decide whether the extra base enthusiasm that inspires makes up for the swing voters it scares away.
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« Reply #708 on: August 17, 2010, 11:13:06 AM »

As Johnny mentioned, around 1/3 of the ballots in Washington won't even arrive until late tonight or tomorrow. Don't expect complete results until the end of the week.
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« Reply #709 on: August 17, 2010, 03:38:12 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2010, 04:27:22 PM by cinyc »

This is definitely in the just because I can category:

Wyoming PVI by County:


Wyoming PVI by Wyoming House District:


City HD close-ups:

Cheyenne:


Casper:


Laramie:


Green River-Rock Springs:


Lander-Riverton:


Some House Districts are a bit of an estimate because about 27 precincts are in two WY House Districts.  The vote was allocated straight-line by percentage of the vote in each House race.

Note this is Wyoming PVI, not US PVI - which is why more than just Teton (and perhaps Albany) counties are red.  
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« Reply #710 on: August 17, 2010, 06:17:50 PM »

What's with that very red district in Fremont County outside of Lander?
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« Reply #711 on: August 17, 2010, 06:52:32 PM »

If by some fluke Murray manages to get a majority, does that mean there won't be a general election in November?
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« Reply #712 on: August 17, 2010, 08:00:38 PM »

No, the top two finishers go on to November regardless.
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« Reply #713 on: August 17, 2010, 08:19:42 PM »

What's with that very red district in Fremont County outside of Lander?

Looks like it includes the Wind River Indian Reservation... Don't forget that house districts have less than 10,000 people in WY!
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« Reply #714 on: August 17, 2010, 08:20:43 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2010, 08:24:07 PM by cinyc »

What's with that very red district in Fremont County outside of Lander?

Wind River Indian Reservation.  Riverton (the unlabled gray outlined city in the light blue HD to the north) is technically on the reservation, but overwhelmingly white.  Lander is not on the reservation and is also very white.
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« Reply #715 on: August 17, 2010, 08:41:15 PM »

Wyoming closed at 9 Eastern.  Results are slowly trickling in.  2/3rds of Sweetwater came in in the D Gov and R US House races.  Gosar is leading in the Dem Gov race.  The incumbent Lummis is winning the US Rep primary.  Nothing significant in the Rep Gov race, last I checked.
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« Reply #716 on: August 17, 2010, 08:43:20 PM »

WY gov. primaries:

Dem:
Gosar 54%
Petersen 34%

GOP:
Micheli 39%
Mead 29%
Meyer 19%
Simpson 11%

That's with only 5% reporting though.
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« Reply #717 on: August 17, 2010, 08:45:22 PM »

I am officially proud of my county. Overwhelming Micheli majority ftw. Cheesy
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« Reply #718 on: August 17, 2010, 08:46:06 PM »

Interesting, I was expecting Leslie Petersen to be a shoo-in for the Democrats. For whatever that's worth.

The incumbent Education Superintendent is currently losing 43-26. Wonder why.
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« Reply #719 on: August 17, 2010, 08:49:42 PM »

The incumbent Education Superintendent is currently losing 43-26. Wonder why.

His website is basically a launchpad for GAWD BLESS 'MURICAH! That and the public school system has sucked a big testicle soufflé under him.
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« Reply #720 on: August 17, 2010, 08:54:07 PM »

my light reading of the situation in Wyoming was that Micheli was the one candidate that might not consolidate absolute GOP support after a primary, a pattern that has haunted Wyoming Republican candidates in the past [Democrats have done really well at this seat int he last 25 years IIRC].

In this year, it probs won't matter, but that's all I know
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« Reply #721 on: August 17, 2010, 08:59:06 PM »

my light reading of the situation in Wyoming was that Micheli was the one candidate that might not consolidate absolute GOP support after a primary, a pattern that has haunted Wyoming Republican candidates in the past [Democrats have done really well at this seat int he last 25 years IIRC].

In this year, it probs won't matter, but that's all I know

He'd only chase away the neocon types. Basically, Meyer's base.
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« Reply #722 on: August 17, 2010, 09:02:05 PM »

Hmm, it looks like Petersen is winning in all the non-Sweetwater (dammit, now I've got an obscure indie-rock song stuck in my head) counties. So I guess it's a little premature to forecast an upset.
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« Reply #723 on: August 17, 2010, 09:02:18 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2010, 09:11:47 PM by cinyc »

WY Gov D (Gosar blue, Petersen green)


WY Gov R (Mead blue, Myer green, Micheli red)


With 33/486 in.  It's probably a bit old now, though.
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« Reply #724 on: August 17, 2010, 09:05:34 PM »

Yeah, it just bumped up to 61 precincts in. Meyer by a handful of votes over Mead and Micheli.
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