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« on: June 08, 2010, 12:19:06 am »

How would it have turned out?
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 12:29:03 am »



Ford wins 395-143.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 08:21:15 pm »



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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 09:58:56 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 10:01:24 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 10:07:00 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.

What's your point? I'm asking how the 1976 election would have looked like had it been held today. And last time I checked, people today think that Ford was a more successful and better President than Carter.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 10:11:17 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.

What's your point? I'm asking how the 1976 election would have looked like had it been held today. And last time I checked, people today think that Ford was a more successful and better President than Carter.

Had the 1976 election been held today, Carter would have just been governor of Georgia, not the president.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 10:13:32 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.

What's your point? I'm asking how the 1976 election would have looked like had it been held today. And last time I checked, people today think that Ford was a more successful and better President than Carter.

Had the 1976 election been held today, Carter would have just been governor of Georgia, not the president.

Well, actually the former. Wink Anyway, what was so great about Ford?
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 10:19:32 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.

What's your point? I'm asking how the 1976 election would have looked like had it been held today. And last time I checked, people today think that Ford was a more successful and better President than Carter.

Had the 1976 election been held today, Carter would have just been governor of Georgia, not the president.

Well, actually the former. Wink Anyway, what was so great about Ford?

He is perceived as better than Carter. At least the inflation rate greatly decreased under his watch, while it greatly increased under Carter. Anyway, in asking this question (as with similar questions for all elections), I meant that both candidates are in their prime and are running for President today. However, the American people also get to see everything that happened so far up to the present day, including Carter's horrible Presidency.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2010, 10:25:54 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.

What's your point? I'm asking how the 1976 election would have looked like had it been held today. And last time I checked, people today think that Ford was a more successful and better President than Carter.

Had the 1976 election been held today, Carter would have just been governor of Georgia, not the president.

Well, actually the former. Wink Anyway, what was so great about Ford?

He is perceived as better than Carter. At least the inflation rate greatly decreased under his watch, while it greatly increased under Carter. Anyway, in asking this question (as with similar questions for all elections), I meant that both candidates are in their prime and are running for President today. However, the American people also get to see everything that happened so far up to the present day, including Carter's horrible Presidency.

Seriously? Is that all you care about? Not a serious, and successful, push for cooperation in the Middle East, or trying to solve energy problems that we are still trying to solve today because no one took him seriously? Or having the guts to go on national television and read the complaints against him (by members of his own party!)? Or, having the guts to tell Americans, in the same national address, that there is a "Crisis of Confidence" in America. Which, of course, is exactly right. Or, admit that many of his own agenda has not been implemented or been successful enough? I can go on...
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 10:41:49 pm »


lol. Ford could just portray Carter as a failure while pointing out that he actually did a good job as President.

Carter wasn't President in 1976.

What's your point? I'm asking how the 1976 election would have looked like had it been held today. And last time I checked, people today think that Ford was a more successful and better President than Carter.

Had the 1976 election been held today, Carter would have just been governor of Georgia, not the president.

Well, actually the former. Wink Anyway, what was so great about Ford?

He is perceived as better than Carter. At least the inflation rate greatly decreased under his watch, while it greatly increased under Carter. Anyway, in asking this question (as with similar questions for all elections), I meant that both candidates are in their prime and are running for President today. However, the American people also get to see everything that happened so far up to the present day, including Carter's horrible Presidency.

Seriously? Is that all you care about? Not a serious, and successful, push for cooperation in the Middle East, or trying to solve energy problems that we are still trying to solve today because no one took him seriously? Or having the guts to go on national television and read the complaints against him (by members of his own party!)? Or, having the guts to tell Americans, in the same national address, that there is a "Crisis of Confidence" in America. Which, of course, is exactly right. Or, admit that many of his own agenda has not been implemented or been successful enough? I can go on...

I'm not saying I don't admire some of Carter's achievements (like the Israel-Egypt peace treaty) or that he didn't have any good ideas. I'm just saying that Carter is perceived as a failure due to his failure to handle hyperinflation and to bring the hostages home. Thus, Ford would easily beat Carter if people had to pick between both of them in their prime years today, sicne they would already know what Carter's Presidency looked like.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 01:53:43 am »

Well if everything was like it was in 1976 I am sure it would come the same.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2010, 12:50:11 pm »

A competetive campaign, but in the end a clear Ford victory with Ford winning between 300 and 320 electoral votes.

Out of curiousity, what's your rationale for Carter doing so well?
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2010, 02:32:32 pm »

A competetive campaign, but in the end a clear Ford victory with Ford winning between 300 and 320 electoral votes.

Out of curiousity, what's your rationale for Carter doing so well?
He is more respected today...some people still have trouble with Ford pardoning Nixon.

Interesting. Even though I'm sure most Americans either remmeber or know about the hostage crisis, and many of them are not too keen to forgive Carter for failing to bring the hostages home.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2010, 02:43:42 pm »

A competetive campaign, but in the end a clear Ford victory with Ford winning between 300 and 320 electoral votes.

Out of curiousity, what's your rationale for Carter doing so well?
He is more respected today...some people still have trouble with Ford pardoning Nixon.

Interesting. Even though I'm sure most Americans either remmeber or know about the hostage crisis, and many of them are not too keen to forgive Carter for failing to bring the hostages home.
Thats why ford still wins by a pretty comfortable margin.

I wouldn't call 300-320 EVs comfortable.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2010, 03:00:26 pm »

A competetive campaign, but in the end a clear Ford victory with Ford winning between 300 and 320 electoral votes.

Out of curiousity, what's your rationale for Carter doing so well?
He is more respected today...some people still have trouble with Ford pardoning Nixon.

Interesting. Even though I'm sure most Americans either remmeber or know about the hostage crisis, and many of them are not too keen to forgive Carter for failing to bring the hostages home.
Thats why ford still wins by a pretty comfortable margin.

I wouldn't call 300-320 EVs comfortable.
It is more comfortable than 270-290

Yeah, but it's still not comfortable historically.
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2010, 05:36:34 pm »

A competetive campaign, but in the end a clear Ford victory with Ford winning between 300 and 320 electoral votes.

Out of curiousity, what's your rationale for Carter doing so well?
He is more respected today...some people still have trouble with Ford pardoning Nixon.

Interesting. Even though I'm sure most Americans either remmeber or know about the hostage crisis, and many of them are not too keen to forgive Carter for failing to bring the hostages home.
Well he sort of did. The Irainians agreed to let them out, but only after Reagan became the president, so he (Carter) would look bad.
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2010, 06:42:04 pm »

A competetive campaign, but in the end a clear Ford victory with Ford winning between 300 and 320 electoral votes.

Out of curiousity, what's your rationale for Carter doing so well?
He is more respected today...some people still have trouble with Ford pardoning Nixon.

Interesting. Even though I'm sure most Americans either remmeber or know about the hostage crisis, and many of them are not too keen to forgive Carter for failing to bring the hostages home.
Well he sort of did. The Irainians agreed to let them out, but only after Reagan became the president, so he (Carter) would look bad.

Yeah, but that would mean (at least in the minds of most americans) that Reagan brought the hostages home and not Carter, which would still make Carter look like a huge failure.
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