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« Reply #225 on: April 19, 2011, 09:27:22 PM »


Yes, on account of the dragon. Why not just stick on Jesus on a saddle like they do with dinosaurs Smiley

The best line of the ''we want tolerance'' political broadcast was "the tolerance of homosexuality should be illegal" and then a giant picture of Bishop Devine.
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« Reply #226 on: April 19, 2011, 11:03:58 PM »

I'm a little surprised by my results.

Conservative 37%
Lib Dem 10% Surprise
Labour 1%
SNP 0%
Greens -16%

They're an awkward mix between North American-type Liberals and European-type Liberals; you probably agree with the latter.
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« Reply #227 on: April 20, 2011, 06:35:05 AM »
« Edited: April 20, 2011, 06:39:06 AM by afleitch »

Interesting snippet from The Scotsman

"SNP candidate Dave Berry claims he is poised to defeat Mr Gray (in East Lothian), quoting canvass returns which he says put him on 34.3 per cent to Mr Gray's 33.4 per cent, but Labour insiders dismiss the claims as "fantasy" and predict an increased majority for Mr Gray.

First time I've seen canvass returns so readily shared.

For the record that would be Labour down 1.1, SNP up 6.5 and CON/LIB down 5.4.

Don't quite believe it myself but a 3.8% swing (not exactly huge) would see Labour loose 14 consituency seats.
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« Reply #228 on: April 20, 2011, 08:23:45 AM »

Probably just mind games. Though it's interesting that we've hit this point; it shows an interesting degree of uncertainty on both sides.
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« Reply #229 on: April 20, 2011, 12:29:36 PM »

Probably just mind games. Though it's interesting that we've hit this point; it shows an interesting degree of uncertainty on both sides.

Absolutely. I have no idea what's going on seat by seat and as I'm a civil servant I'm barred from getting close to the action Sad

The SNP do seem to be circling target seats that Labour currently hold; Paisley and Dumbarton for one, so who knows. I'm sure flying visits by Salmond in the final week will give a clearer picture.
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« Reply #230 on: April 20, 2011, 03:39:24 PM »

Poll due tonight reportedly places the SNP 'close to a majority'
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« Reply #231 on: April 20, 2011, 04:05:34 PM »

Poll due tonight reportedly places the SNP 'close to a majority'

Given the sort of numbers needed for that, sounds like an outlier or something by one of those dubious little outfits, but better to wait and see.
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« Reply #232 on: April 20, 2011, 04:08:43 PM »
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Poll due tonight reportedly places the SNP 'close to a majority'

Given the sort of numbers needed for that, sounds like an outlier or something by one of those dubious little outfits, but better to wait and see.

It's for Newsnight apparently, so...
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« Reply #233 on: April 20, 2011, 05:10:25 PM »

10% regional and 11% const lead for the SNP. Just nearly choked on my Pepsi.
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« Reply #234 on: April 20, 2011, 05:15:21 PM »

Well, Gray won't be Leader of the Opposition much longer anyway, whether his constituents sack him or the party does...
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« Reply #235 on: April 20, 2011, 05:22:06 PM »

10% regional and 11% const lead for the SNP. Just nearly choked on my Pepsi.

If true it would reduce Labour to a Glasgow/Lanarkshire rump and the figures, plus a potential handful of Greenies, Margo etc could give them the numbers needed to get an independence referendum bill passed.
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« Reply #236 on: April 20, 2011, 05:23:38 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2011, 05:31:32 PM by afleitch »

More info

SNP at 45, Labour at 34 which means an improvement for both parties on their 2007 share.

EDIT: Tories on 10, Lib Dems on 9.
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« Reply #237 on: April 20, 2011, 05:30:31 PM »

Alex Salmond has just ruled out a coalition with the Tories. It was never on the cards anyway; it's barred in the SNP's constitution Grin
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« Reply #238 on: April 20, 2011, 05:49:48 PM »

Alex Salmond has just ruled out a coalition with the Tories. It was never on the cards anyway; it's barred in the SNP's constitution Grin

Is it? How so? I never knew Tongue

But anyway, I'm sure the Liberals will be all too happy to be a junior partner. They'll end up as avid nationalists the day after the election.
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« Reply #239 on: April 20, 2011, 05:58:55 PM »
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Alex Salmond has just ruled out a coalition with the Tories. It was never on the cards anyway; it's barred in the SNP's constitution Grin

Is it? How so? I never knew Tongue

But anyway, I'm sure the Liberals will be all too happy to be a junior partner. They'll end up as avid nationalists the day after the election.

The likely outcome is an SNP minority government with a continued 'confidence and supply' agreement with the Tories.

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SNP 45/42
LAB 34/32
CON 10/10
LIB 9/8

ScotlandVotes (keeping the Green and Margo vote the same as '07 until we hear different) gives:

SNP 64
LAB 43
CON 11
LIB 8
GRN 2
IND 1

That would be the SNP just 1 seat short of a majority.
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« Reply #240 on: April 20, 2011, 06:03:54 PM »

Alex Salmond has just ruled out a coalition with the Tories. It was never on the cards anyway; it's barred in the SNP's constitution Grin

Is it? How so? I never knew Tongue

But anyway, I'm sure the Liberals will be all too happy to be a junior partner. They'll end up as avid nationalists the day after the election.

The likely outcome is an SNP minority government with a continued 'confidence and supply' agreement with the Tories.

I thought all sides were aiming for a coalition this time round.
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« Reply #241 on: April 20, 2011, 07:11:54 PM »

Who did the poll?
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« Reply #242 on: April 20, 2011, 07:57:02 PM »


Ipsos Mori for The Times and Newsnight Smiley
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« Reply #243 on: April 21, 2011, 12:19:15 AM »

Why have the Tories lost support? They seemed like they were headed towards picking up some seats a couple of weeks ago.
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« Reply #244 on: April 21, 2011, 06:27:38 AM »

Iain Gray is campaigning in Glasgow, doing a tour of seats covering Glasgow Pollok, Cathcart, Kelvin, Maryhill & Springburn. He is spending a full day in the city.

That is quite something.
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« Reply #245 on: April 21, 2011, 07:48:32 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2011, 08:10:13 PM by Refudiate »

Finally got round to watching the debate. Does Iain Gray know it's not a great idea to be a lecturer and talk down to voters? ANYONE would be put off by him!

Alex Salmond is... Alex Salmond.
Goldie comes across as competent.
Tavish comes across quite well, if quiet, could never vote Liberal though. Nick Clegg came across well too, last year.
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« Reply #246 on: April 23, 2011, 03:46:29 PM »

Two new polls to give SNP 'significant' leads.
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« Reply #247 on: April 23, 2011, 03:48:11 PM »

Two new polls to give SNP 'significant' leads.

Atleast Ed still has the locals (hopefully)...

A bad night for all 3 parties really. A bit like last year.
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« Reply #248 on: April 23, 2011, 04:18:28 PM »

"Progressive Scottish Opinion" for the Sunday Mail (The Daily Record' sister paper)

SNP 46/38
LAB 36/37
CON 9/10
LIB 6/9
GRN -/5

Seats:

SNP 56
LAB 51
CON 10
LIB 9
GRN 2
IND 1

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Odd regional figures.
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« Reply #249 on: April 23, 2011, 06:06:34 PM »

And now the big guns

YouGov

SNP 45/39
LAB 32/29
CON 10/12
LIB 8/7
GRN -/7

Seats

SNP 61
LAB 41
CON 13
GRN 8
LIB 6
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