The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Purple State]

I officially call this first meeting of the House to Order.

Representative democracy is on the march!

[Purple State]

Can we start introducing legislation now, or do we have to wait until all of our members are sworn in?

It would be recommended you form some sort of Standing Rules for the body so that the sequence of things is orderly.

[Purple State]

You don't need any rules. The Mideast does fine without them. The Northeast has rules, and they have plenty of issues. We don't want to be like the Northeast.

Rules for the election of a Speaker is all that is really needed. The Mideast does have that.

[Purple State]

It must be signed by the governor because your regional constitution doesn't provide for the Legislature's ability to make its own rules, as does the federal constitution. So this must be legislation.

[Purple State]

Did we ever do anything about that prison problem the GM wrote about?

That's the first i've heard of it.

     Same here. I guess that means we didn't do anything about it, then.

And to think I was just about to re-post it in my regional update. Well, I'll keep it there just so it stays on your minds.

I'll add another thing for you to address after this one, just to keep ya'll busy.

[Purple State]

Friendly reminder to keep your Wiki updated with all laws passed. Thanks!

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Southeast_Law

[Purple State]

just updated it

Thanks. One note: If you could include either the full text of the laws or links to the final version, that would be useful as well.

[Purple State]

I hope the Southeast Legislature will consider taking up the ConCon resolution that my administration-in-waiting has proposed.

[Purple State]

I hope the Southeast Legislature will consider taking up the ConCon resolution that my administration-in-waiting has proposed.

     I figure it would be a good idea to try it again, especially with the huge number of amendments added on to the Constitution in what seems like a rather ad hoc fashion. Not to mention that third time's the charm, eh?

I hope this will be a much more limited convention specifically for the purposes laid out in the campaign. This will not be a convention to reinvent the game, but rather, I hope it will give us a chance to quickly and efficiently clean up the game.

[Purple State]

The petition for ConCon and reboot

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Thank you Governor and thanks to this Legislature for your speedy approval.

[Purple State]

As the proposed new Constitution must be ratified by the regions, I am posting this public service announcement in the threads of the regional legislatures:

Very Important Announcement

The Constitutional Convention is reaching its end, with the final two documents being voted on as we speak.

At this time, delegates and all Atlasians are welcome to offer their thoughts on an amendment to ANY part of the new Constitution, which will be considered all at once in one final amendment vote coming up in the next 48-72 hours. This means that any changes you would like to see to the current document should be offered right now.

Here is the relevant announcement in the Convention thread:

During the next 48 hours, please offer any amendments, as well as debate, that you would like to see considered for any part of the document. This is your last chance to make finishing touches to any of the more controversial changes, including dual-office holding, regional legislatures, the legislative restart, etc.

Feel free to offer opposing variations to amendments as well, which will then be brought up as a package vote.

Here is the relevant links to help you out:

Constitutional Convention thread

Constitutional Convention completed documents page

Please review the completed documents and post here or in the Convention thread with your comments, ideas or amendments. I would be happy to offer well thought out amendments on behalf of non-delegates.

This is a crucial moment in this process, as the next step is a final vote and then presentation to the regions for approval.

Thanks,
~President Purple State

Articles VII and VIII have been passed and the entire proposed Third Constitution is now nearly set. There is now just under 24 hours remaining for the proposal of amendments to any part of this document, before a final vote and presentation to the regions for the ratification process.

Please, I implore all the citizens of Atlasia, read through the completed documents page (linked in the quoted announcement above) and propose any amendments in this thread or in the Constitutional Convention thread (also linked above). Even if you don't know how to word the amendment properly, provide your thoughts and I will help you out.

[Purple State]

     Something that occurred to me is that this convention is only meant to be a consolidation of the current Constitution. If we push for some actual substantive change here, it opens up a can of worms that we ought not open.

This is exactly correct. I do think it worthwhile to offer an amendment, if this new Constitution is ratified, to change that piece. And hopefully future amendments will simply be edited in directly, rather than placed in a footnote as the current Constitution is formatted.

[Purple State]

Ok.  I will vote to ratify it.  Any grievances with it can be taken up at a later date.

I appreciate it. My goal was to avoid rocking the boat with this document, but far be it from me to stop you making a fuss afterwards.

[Purple State]

     I will also vote to ratify it, though I find it slightly odd that the wording of several previously clear clauses was modernized.

You are probably referring to those clauses that were originally copy/pasted from the Bill of Rights? The delegates felt it just made it easier for the modern person to read.

[Purple State]

     I will also vote to ratify it, though I find it slightly odd that the wording of several previously clear clauses was modernized.

You are probably referring to those clauses that were originally copy/pasted from the Bill of Rights? The delegates felt it just made it easier for the modern person to read.

     I thought they were quite clear to begin with. It seems sort of patronizing to me to assume that people in Atlasia are not familiar with American Constitutional interpretation, though it doesn't really bother me either way.

Well you have to consider the non-Americans in the game. Plus, ILV is a pretty patronizing poster.