Franzl/Swedish Cheese campaign CONCESSION SPEECH

[Alexander Hamilton]

Could you outline your fiscal policy for me? This is likely how I will determine the candidates I ultimately vote for.

Do you just mean general economic principles, or do you have any specific questions or concerns?

We are facing crisis still. What type of "stimuli" would you support? Banking/credit reform? Taxes? Trade? How do you hope to make sure that more jobs are available and the unemployment rate will normalize? Green economics? Etc.

[Franzl]

I supported the original stimulus package this last Senate session in the hopes it would provide some sort of economic boost, I'm still waiting to hear what the actual effects of it were.

I might entertain the idea of certain smaller boosts on a needs basis....but I'm generally sceptical of pumping more money we don't have in order to generate demand that is often artificial and impossible to maintain. That's why I strongly opposed attempts to legislate "Cash for Clunkers" in Atlasia.

Taxes are good the way they are for the most part, although I wouldn't mind a small tax cut for the lowest individual bracket. Aside from that, but maybe more sensible at a later date, I strongly support lower corporate taxation in an effort to be more internationally competitive.

As far as trade is concerned, I tend to support laissez-faire international policies. Free trade is mutually beneficial in my mind in most cases, and only extreme circumstances would force me to oppose individual free trade agreements.

Green economics? Well, I obviously believe global warming is a problem that needs to be taken seriously. What I don't approve of is the way the real life Greens complain about CO2....but simultaneously oppose attempts to generate more nuclear power. That's one of my main environmentally friendly ways to become somewhat more independent of oil. Other things include supporting modernization of federal buildings, and support for high speed rail, and any public transportation really.

NCYankee's bill to provide necessary credit was very important, and I anticipate that that will have a positive effect, and will probably save lots of Atlasian jobs.

I'll write more about economic policy as this campaign progesses, as it is the most important element of good government, in my mind.

[Alexander Hamilton]

What about a national bank?

[Franzl]

Thanks to Afleitch who produced this brilliant campaign banner!

[Franzl]

What about a national bank?

I'm honestly unsure on that currently. You make some good points in favor, but I do have concerns about competition, much like I did when the debate was on nationalizing the Atlasian auto industry.

I'd like to wait for Senate debate before making a final decision.

[Alexander Hamilton]

What about a national bank?

I'm honestly unsure on that currently. You make some good points in favor, but I do have concerns about competition, much like I did when the debate was on nationalizing the Atlasian auto industry.

I'd like to note that nationalization of the auto industry is a different concept with entirely different underlying principles.

A national bank would still be open to private competition because there are those who would not qualify or have credit needs that the government could not provide. This would not be an entire nationalization of an industry, and in that, it would not be a nationalization of production but rather opportunity. The national bank would, hopefully, offer more competition to our free markets. In addition, when it comes to principle, the current credit industry is deriving profit from the working man's have-not status. From my point of view, this is "The Man" taking advantage and profiting on someone's lack of capital, mostly due to birth/social position. With a national bank, credit would not be nearly as difficult for many to afford, and the "profits" would actually be a return to the taxpayer! It more or less expands the free market, whereas the automobile nationalization would have created a monopoly, essentially destroying the free market of that industry.

[Franzl]

Fair and good point. Thank you.

[Хahar 🤔]

Quite a surprise.

Hamilton, stop lying.

[Franzl]

So I guess most of you are pretty surprised.

I can assure you that it was nothing compared how surprised I felt when I was first offered the position by Franzl. At first I was almost convinced that there had been some sort of misunderstanding or mix-up. When it became clear to me that I was in fact the person Franzl wanted by his side, I became determined to be the best running mate, and the best Vice President anyone could ask for.

I’m very glad to see the warm response to my nomination, from some of the most influential and admirable posters in this game. I’m actually really flattered.

Even though my time in Atlasia has not been very long, I have still grown really attached to this place. This game has some of the most intelligent and interesting people I could ever imagine. I think that just by being around you guys, and by hearing all your different arguments and perspectives, I have become wiser. Not to mention I have made some really great friends here.      

Therefore I want to make sure that Atlasia has the best of the best, and that this game really is everything that it can be. I believe that the best way to achieve that is by electing Franzl our next President. During the coming month I will work hard and tirelessly to make sure it happens.  

Thank you all for the support and kind words. Dave bless you, and Dave bless Atlasia.

Also please no RPP vs JCP fights. Lets all be friends instead *HugHugHug*

Humble as always

[Alexander Hamilton]

Quite a surprise.

Hamilton, stop lying.

Where did I lie, you twat?

[DownWithTheLeft]

I have a question for the VP nominee:

What do you think of the SoEA's statement that DA and RPP will never again work together?  Do you agree with his statement or do you think that working together across party lines is best for Atlasia?

[Marokai Backbeat]

Here we go..

[Хahar 🤔]

Quite a surprise.

Hamilton, stop lying.

Where did I lie, you twat?

That you didn't try to bring Swedish Cheese on. Or that you weren't going to bolt for the DA along with PiT, Rowan and tmth. Or that you didn't want to bolt the RPP and make a new party because of something afleitch said a couple years ago. Or a thousand other things, really.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Quite a surprise.

Hamilton, stop lying.

Where did I lie, you twat?

That you didn't try to bring Swedish Cheese on. Or that you weren't going to bolt for the DA along with PiT, Rowan and tmth. Or that you didn't want to bolt the RPP and make a new party because of something afleitch said a couple years ago. Or a thousand other things, really.

Where have I lied? No one suggested Swedish Cheese as a potential VP. Names that I saw floated- AndrewCT, Smid, and  afleitch. Those were the only names I saw as potential VP picks. Never was Swedish Cheese mentioned. I also never was going to bolt to the DA, although I did try to deduce what exactly those who did were being offered, but I did entertain the idea of a new party in the instance that the RPP was no longer viable, something that is common knowledge. So where exactly did I lie?

You may think you're being sweet or cute or funny but you're not. You're the only one here who is a liar. You have no principles, you are a vicious and malicious person who has no business being anywhere near an elected office. Scum

[DownWithTheLeft]

Here we go..

What that I asked a fair game question of a potential VP?  Sorry for not playing Marokai-ball today

[Franzl]

And I got a second banner from Senator tmthforu94 as well:



Much appreciated!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I will say that I had no information that we tried to recruit SwedishChinese. After Franzl backed out on the Jedi ticket, Hamilton floated afleitch for a moment, but the AndrewCT pick was a complete surprise to me. As far as I know, Jedi did his selection of Andrew on his own, only telling us we'd be pleased with it. If Hamilton was talking to SC, then you'll need to ask him. I like the kid, but never went out to recruit him, nor did I know he was asked to be Jedi's VP. As I said, I think all of his VP searches were done on his own. We had no hand in it.

[tmthforu94]

Quite a surprise.

Hamilton, stop lying.

Where did I lie, you twat?

That you didn't try to bring Swedish Cheese on. Or that you weren't going to bolt for the DA along with PiT, Rowan and tmth. Or that you didn't want to bolt the RPP and make a new party because of something afleitch said a couple years ago. Or a thousand other things, really.

Where have I lied? No one suggested Swedish Cheese as a potential VP. Names that I saw floated- AndrewCT, Smid, and  afleitch. Those were the only names I saw as potential VP picks. Never was Swedish Cheese mentioned. I also never was going to bolt to the DA, although I did try to deduce what exactly those who did were being offered, but I did entertain the idea of a new party in the instance that the RPP was no longer viable, something that is common knowledge. So where exactly did I lie?

You may think you're being sweet or cute or funny but you're not. You're the only one here who is a liar. You have no principles, you are a vicious and malicious person who has no business being anywhere near an elected office. Scum

Huh? I specifically mentioned Swedish Cheese's name a couple of weeks ago. He was on my top two list that you knew about... I guess I'm no one...

[Alexander Hamilton]

Quite a surprise.

Hamilton, stop lying.

Where did I lie, you twat?

That you didn't try to bring Swedish Cheese on. Or that you weren't going to bolt for the DA along with PiT, Rowan and tmth. Or that you didn't want to bolt the RPP and make a new party because of something afleitch said a couple years ago. Or a thousand other things, really.

Where have I lied? No one suggested Swedish Cheese as a potential VP. Names that I saw floated- AndrewCT, Smid, and  afleitch. Those were the only names I saw as potential VP picks. Never was Swedish Cheese mentioned. I also never was going to bolt to the DA, although I did try to deduce what exactly those who did were being offered, but I did entertain the idea of a new party in the instance that the RPP was no longer viable, something that is common knowledge. So where exactly did I lie?

You may think you're being sweet or cute or funny but you're not. You're the only one here who is a liar. You have no principles, you are a vicious and malicious person who has no business being anywhere near an elected office. Scum

Huh? I specifically mentioned Swedish Cheese's name a couple of weeks ago. He was on my top two list that you knew about... I guess I'm no one...

I do not remember him being mentioned as a potential running mate, I would have said something about it. But if you can find that post I would appreciate it.

[tmthforu94]

I do not remember him being mentioned as a potential running mate, I would have said something about it. But if you can find that post I would appreciate it.

Has anyone ever told you that you have selective memory?

[Alexander Hamilton]

I do not remember him being mentioned as a potential running mate, I would have said something about it. But if you can find that post I would appreciate it.

Has anyone ever told you that you have selective memory?

A search "Swedish Cheese" does not net any post that suggests him.

[tmthforu94]

I do not remember him being mentioned as a potential running mate, I would have said something about it. But if you can find that post I would appreciate it.

Has anyone ever told you that you have selective memory?

A search "Swedish Cheese" does not net any post that suggests him.

Read your pms. I'm right, and you are wrong. It's be nice if you'd just admit it...
Franzl, would you consider voting for a bill that would ban abortions in the third trimester?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Well Tmthforu, I just PM'd you proof of your idiocy. A 40 page thread with a single post about it that does not show up on a search. And my response was "he is too inexperienced." That is not selective memory and it also does not contradict anything I said earlier. There was NO WAY for me to be able to see that one little post without going through 4o pages.

[Franzl]

Franzl, would you consider voting for a bill that would ban abortions in the third trimester?

Yes, absolutely. I've always had a very strong dislike of abortion, and I even supported illegalizing at entirely at one point, but I've come to realize that such a move would be counterproductive in the fight against abortion.

But there's no reason a woman should be having an abortion in the third trimester, and I would sign such a ban if it were presented to me.

[tmthforu94]

Well Tmthforu, I just PM'd you proof of your idiocy. A 40 page thread with a single post about it that does not show up on a search. And my response was "he is too inexperienced." That is not selective memory and it also does not contradict anything I said earlier. There was NO WAY for me to be able to see that one little post without going through 4o pages.

Oh for crying out loud! Please stop this rubbish. I have sent you an exact link to where it is at, as well a screenshot of my post.

Thank you Franzl. I am extremely happy with your answer.