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Expand abortion to 18 weeks
 
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« on: July 16, 2020, 05:53:58 AM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2020, 05:57:17 AM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

It's 23 weeks and 6 days in Great Britain so it's not that 'liberal'. It should be removed from the criminal code. You'd have to explain what you mean by 'men are criminally prosecutable' though. It's not clear.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2020, 06:07:17 AM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

It's 23 weeks and 6 days in Great Britain so it's not that 'liberal'. It should be removed from the criminal code. You'd have to explain what you mean by 'men are criminally prosecutable' though. It's not clear.
That's something the right claims. I'm not sure as well. Zinneke might know it better. I didn't know it was that liberal in GB. The right compares it to the progressive Netherlands where it's the only country where it's so liberal, and claims it's the most liberal abortion law proposed over the world.

I didn't fact-check.

Btw. I would vote in favour.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2020, 07:22:35 AM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

I support it but what does it mean by men who "oppose" the abortion? They can't disagree with her decision verbally? Or attempting to physically stop her from getting an abortion is a crime? If it's the latter I agree.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2020, 02:57:32 PM »

18 weeks seems reasonable to me, but:

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

I support it but what does it mean by men who "oppose" the abortion? They can't disagree with her decision verbally? Or attempting to physically stop her from getting an abortion is a crime? If it's the latter I agree.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2020, 03:04:47 PM »

I support it
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2020, 03:04:51 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2020, 03:20:18 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2020, 03:40:26 PM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

First where poll choice for banning abortion (except for rape, incest, life of the mother)

Additionally men should have say and shouldn’t be held criminally liable for opposing an abortion of their partner. This denying men a voice in the process has got to stop.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2020, 03:52:05 PM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

First where poll choice for banning abortion (except for rape, incest, life of the mother)

Additionally men should have say and shouldn’t be held criminally liable for opposing an abortion of their partner. This denying men a voice in the process has got to stop.
It's the woman's body, not the man's body as far as I know.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2020, 04:47:56 PM »

This would be a terrible law, but what in the world is meant by men opposing an abortion could be prosecuted?  That sounds like China-level crackdowns on free speech.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2020, 04:56:00 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2020, 02:43:53 PM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

It's 23 weeks and 6 days in Great Britain so it's not that 'liberal'. It should be removed from the criminal code. You'd have to explain what you mean by 'men are criminally prosecutable' though. It's not clear.
That's something the right claims. I'm not sure as well. Zinneke might know it better. I didn't know it was that liberal in GB. The right compares it to the progressive Netherlands where it's the only country where it's so liberal, and claims it's the most liberal abortion law proposed over the world.

I didn't fact-check.

Btw. I would vote in favour.

I get that; but why did you quote 'the right'; what right wing source did you use that could so blatantly make sh-t up that can be checked online in minutes? I'm curious Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2020, 02:45:22 PM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

It's 23 weeks and 6 days in Great Britain so it's not that 'liberal'. It should be removed from the criminal code. You'd have to explain what you mean by 'men are criminally prosecutable' though. It's not clear.
That's something the right claims. I'm not sure as well. Zinneke might know it better. I didn't know it was that liberal in GB. The right compares it to the progressive Netherlands where it's the only country where it's so liberal, and claims it's the most liberal abortion law proposed over the world.

I didn't fact-check.

Btw. I would vote in favour.

I get that; but why did you quote 'the right'; what right wing source did you use that could so blatantly make sh-t up that can be checked online in minutes? I'm curious Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2020, 01:22:43 PM »

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

I know this is over a week old, but being legal up to 18 weeks is more conservative than in most of the United States at least.
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2020, 03:44:02 PM »

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The result is that the limit at which an abortion can no longer take place is extended from 12 to 18 weeks, the obligatory cooling-off period is cut from six days to two, and abortion is removed entirely from the criminal code.

Additionally, men who oppose the abortion of their woman are criminally prosecutable. Information about alternative methods in abortion centers are cancelled.

Marxists, social democrats, greens and some liberals support the new amendment to the abortion law. Some liberals, christian democrats, nationalists and far-right are against.

We would have the most progressive abortion law over the world if enacted.

First where poll choice for banning abortion (except for rape, incest, life of the mother)

Additionally men should have say and shouldn’t be held criminally liable for opposing an abortion of their partner. This denying men a voice in the process has got to stop.
It's the woman's body, not the man's body as far as I know.

Agreed. The woman should be the only one who has any say in what happens with the fetus. However, if the man expresses his preference that she have an abortion and she goes through with the pregnancy anyway, the man should not be required to pay child support.
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2020, 05:18:59 PM »

Sorry Timmy. We know you're living in abject poverty, but your dad ticked a box on a form saying he doesn't want you, so no child support for you.
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