Opinion of Fhtagn

[jamestroll]

Fhtagn is smart enough to know that it is unlikely the Democrats will lose Virginia in 2024 and 2025. She admitted it is unlikely the VA GOP can hold the governorship in 2025.

All Tmac had to do was run a competent campaign to me. That is literally it. Trumpkin ran one of the best campaigns I have ever seen with the best ads I have ever seen. All I saw Tmac running was TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP and nothing about all the great progress the Northam administration accomplished and even his own tenure as governor. Tmac didn't mention much about Virginia having one of the best economies in the United States.

But of course.. many Republicans think Virginia will be a highly contested swing state in 2024. If Trumpkin had to run the best campaign I have ever seen against someone with literal campaign malpractice in a climate like 2021.. I am not too optimistic for the VA GOP. Even though I think Biden only carries it by like 4 to 6 points in 2024.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tbh North Carolina Yankee you seem blaming “ identitarian pressure groups” for the simply fact that society has changed. The circumstances that allowed the New Deal coalition to be built don’t exist anymore. The fact of the matter is in the year 2021 democrats leadership can’t just cover their eyes and ears when another video is posted of a cop shooting another unarmed black man or another academic study shows that our for profit judicial system is built on discrimination against POC like they did in the past. Nor can they just shove trans people back into the closet. The fact of the matter a lot of the “woke” drama we deal with today is because this is the first true time that alot of once disenfranchised groups have a ability to speak out like they couldn’t in the past and there is no way around that

You missed the point. The point is not about transporting a 30s coalition to now. It is about understanding the similar dynamics.

But that is what I’m saying. The dynamics just aren’t there anymore because of the way society has changed

The most important dynamic is recognizing the need to build the broadest coalition possible around the priority points and that is always present.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Tbh North Carolina Yankee you seem blaming “ identitarian pressure groups” for the simply fact that society has changed. The circumstances that allowed the New Deal coalition to be built don’t exist anymore. The fact of the matter is in the year 2021 democrats leadership can’t just cover their eyes and ears when another video is posted of a cop shooting another unarmed black man or another academic study shows that our for profit judicial system is built on discrimination against POC like they did in the past. Nor can they just shove trans people back into the closet. The fact of the matter a lot of the “woke” drama we deal with today is because this is the first true time that alot of once disenfranchised groups have a ability to speak out like they couldn’t in the past and there is no way around that

You missed the point. The point is not about transporting a 30s coalition to now. It is about understanding the similar dynamics.

But that is what I’m saying. The dynamics just aren’t there anymore because of the way society has changed

The most important dynamic is recognizing the need to build the broadest coalition possible around the priority points and that is always present.

With the exception of marijuana legalization, the Democratic Party does do these things though

[Crumpets]

Somehow I get the feeling this poll is going to progress in similar fashion to how Virginia reports on election nights.

Projection: Senator Mark Warner has won re-election.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

She would fit in well in Australia.

FF.

To be fair that's the plan.

[jamestroll]

Somehow I get the feeling this poll is going to progress in similar fashion to how Virginia reports on election nights.

Projection: Senator Mark Warner has won re-election.

Warner will probably have some trouble in a Biden midterm.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Its also a testament to why and how the Democrats are now in the position that they are with the inability to get anything done. Rather than working assertively to build and maintain a working class coalition that spans all groups for the sake of achieving progressive action on a number of economic points, they have become dominated by any number of identitarian pressure groups, who want everything, will concede nothing and have turned everything into a dichotomy of "you are either for us 100% or against us, or you are some kind of trash".

Yeah this arcane and pointless forum drama is Why Trump Won.

[Хahar 🤔]

I have no idea what this thread is about

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I have no idea what this thread is about

It's about election results in Virginia. Late arriving HP votes now claim a majority.

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

Idk about Fhtagn, but my opinion of Fuzzy has managed to decline after reading Page 3.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

HP

[Fuzzy Bear]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tbh North Carolina Yankee you seem blaming “ identitarian pressure groups” for the simply fact that society has changed. The circumstances that allowed the New Deal coalition to be built don’t exist anymore. The fact of the matter is in the year 2021 democrats leadership can’t just cover their eyes and ears when another video is posted of a cop shooting another unarmed black man or another academic study shows that our for profit judicial system is built on discrimination against POC like they did in the past. Nor can they just shove trans people back into the closet. The fact of the matter a lot of the “woke” drama we deal with today is because this is the first true time that alot of once disenfranchised groups have a ability to speak out like they couldn’t in the past and there is no way around that

You missed the point. The point is not about transporting a 30s coalition to now. It is about understanding the similar dynamics.

But that is what I’m saying. The dynamics just aren’t there anymore because of the way society has changed

The most important dynamic is recognizing the need to build the broadest coalition possible around the priority points and that is always present.

With the exception of marijuana legalization, the Democratic Party does do these things though

That's a petty damning indictment is it not, about the ability to get many of the tangible objectives the Democrats have been talking about the last few years?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

Since you asked, no, I voted FF in the opinion of poll for Badger (side note: I posted my HP vote in this thread b/c if you’re gonna vote HP, then it’s kinda cowardly to just hide behind the poll imo).  Frankly, that one is not even a close call; Badger’s a really good guy.

[Fuzzy Bear]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

Since you asked, no, I voted FF in the opinion of poll for Badger (side note: I posted my HP vote in this thread b/c if you’re gonna vote HP, then it’s kinda cowardly to just hide behind the poll imo).  Frankly, that one is not even a close call; Badger’s a really good guy.

Really good guys don't suggest others check out for good.

I will be honest as well:  People who aggressively trash me are HPs in my book.  That's been Badger.  People who stand up for me when I'm unfairly attacked are FFs in my book.  That's fhtagn.  That, too, is not even close.  Badger's been the Forum Bully, and he gets no sanction.  fhtagn supposedly goes "bats--- crazy" and gets a sanction because lots of Red avatars don't like it and report her.  Badger is a Bully Recidivist, and few blue avatars (other than myself) report him.  Then when the disparate sanctions come, its because one party has more reported posts, etc.  Well of course.

When I see Badger (for his bullying) or ProudModerate2 (for his constant trolling of me) receive some kind of meaningful sanction, I'll be convinced.  R. P. McM?  If he were a Republican he'd be gone last year.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

Since you asked, no, I voted FF in the opinion of poll for Badger (side note: I posted my HP vote in this thread b/c if you’re gonna vote HP, then it’s kinda cowardly to just hide behind the poll imo).  Frankly, that one is not even a close call; Badger’s a really good guy.

Really good guys don't suggest others check out for good.

I will be honest as well:  People who aggressively trash me are HPs in my book.  That's been Badger.  People who stand up for me when I'm unfairly attacked are FFs in my book.  That's fhtagn.  That, too, is not even close.  Badger's been the Forum Bully, and he gets no sanction.  fhtagn supposedly goes "bats--- crazy" and gets a sanction because lots of Red avatars don't like it and report her.  Badger is a Bully Recidivist, and few blue avatars (other than myself) report him.  Then when the disparate sanctions come, its because one party has more reported posts, etc.  Well of course.

When I see Badger (for his bullying) or ProudModerate2 (for his constant trolling of me) receive some kind of meaningful sanction, I'll be convinced.  R. P. McM?  If he were a Republican he'd be gone last year.

I fundamentally disagree with your characterization of Badger as “the forum bully.”  With all due respect, while I know you wouldn’t say that unless you believed it; I just don’t agree with you on that one.  He made a pretty awful post three years ago, but he’s sincerely and repeatedly apologized.  

Fhtagn has been bullying him with an awful smear campaign for years now and while that’s no excuse for the post Badger made on ADD (as Badger is always the first to admit), I’m not going to judge someone by the worst post they ever made (especially when they’ve spent over a year apologizing for it and it doesn’t reflect their usual behavior).  Even really good people make mistakes sometimes.  That’s what happened with the AAD post; it doesn’t change the fact that Badger’s a good person whom I am proud to call a friend.

[Fuzzy Bear]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

Since you asked, no, I voted FF in the opinion of poll for Badger (side note: I posted my HP vote in this thread b/c if you’re gonna vote HP, then it’s kinda cowardly to just hide behind the poll imo).  Frankly, that one is not even a close call; Badger’s a really good guy.

Really good guys don't suggest others check out for good.

I will be honest as well:  People who aggressively trash me are HPs in my book.  That's been Badger.  People who stand up for me when I'm unfairly attacked are FFs in my book.  That's fhtagn.  That, too, is not even close.  Badger's been the Forum Bully, and he gets no sanction.  fhtagn supposedly goes "bats--- crazy" and gets a sanction because lots of Red avatars don't like it and report her.  Badger is a Bully Recidivist, and few blue avatars (other than myself) report him.  Then when the disparate sanctions come, its because one party has more reported posts, etc.  Well of course.

When I see Badger (for his bullying) or ProudModerate2 (for his constant trolling of me) receive some kind of meaningful sanction, I'll be convinced.  R. P. McM?  If he were a Republican he'd be gone last year.

I fundamentally disagree with your characterization of Badger as “the forum bully.”  With all due respect, while I know you wouldn’t say that unless you believed it; I just don’t agree with you on that one.  He made a pretty awful post three years ago, but he’s sincerely and repeatedly apologized.  

Fhtagn has been bullying him with an awful smear campaign for years now and while that’s no excuse for the post Badger made on ADD (as Badger is always the first to admit), I’m not going to judge someone by the worst post they ever made (especially when they’ve spent over a year apologizing for it and it doesn’t reflect their usual behavior).  Even really good people make mistakes sometimes.  That’s what happened with the AAD post; it doesn’t change the fact that Badger’s a good person whom I am proud to call a friend.

And, yet, if I were to make such a post, I'd be not only judged by it; I'd be run off the forum for it. 

fhtagn is also someone who has actively stood up for me when others, including Badger, were piling on, and others were maintaining a "dignified silence" (something I won't maintain when people who have stood up for me are being dumped on).  People ought to know that, just in case there wondering why I'm making this such a big deal. 

And, yet, the people who make vile personal attacks against me, year after year, things that would invite a lawsuit in real life, get to stay, essentially unsanctioned.  IN that face of all of that, I had my ability to report posts taken from me simply because people didn't want to deal with my reporting posts that were flat out reportable.

Take away my ability to report posts.  Ban and mute people that stand up for me.  Condone and reward people that are part of the rat pack.  You will never get me to see what has just transpired is right or just, and you will certainly never get me to see this as evenhanded.  In truth, there are some on your moderating team that view every personal attack on me that violates the ToS as, somehow, something I deserve.

[Cokeland Saxton]

HP. Used to say FF, but her views have kinda gone off the deep end as of late.

[Saint Milei]

Would definitely shotgun with her at a tailgate.