2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1329439591892475905

Remind me again why Hillary was wrong for saying half of Trump supporters are awful?

She was not.  Around 50% of Trump supporters are literal criminals yet it's inappropriate to discuss this fact.  Instead we must allow them to engage in their criminality in plain view. 

If Democrats don't hold them accountable when Biden is in office I am going to vote straight Republican in the midterms and tell my elected officials that I'm doing it in protest of their inaction.

[Non Swing Voter]

So much like election night red states are off to a quick advantage in certification and Trump has way more electoral votes locked up.  Democrats are terrible with optics.

[Non Swing Voter]

It's time to start locking these Republicans up.  Democrats doing nothing has enabled this BS.  Get aggressive already.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/JonathanLanday/status/1329485065898909700

So it's treason then.

F'ING ARREST HER AND THE REST OF THEM ALREADY.  WTF.

[Non Swing Voter]

I'm quite happy at this point for Biden to be a caretaker President spending the next four years prosecuting every single person involved in the Trump administration and half the Senate and every group of influencers who have funded this sh-t. I want to see their blubbering faces at trial so that 73 million Americans will have to pretend to be Jo Jorgensen voters by 2022.

Every MAGA cheerleader deserves to be called a traitor to their face. No ifs, no buts no maybe's. Public shame.

Traitors all.

Agreed.  They better prosecute them.  No more of this unity bullsh** as if Trump and his band of criminals haven't pushed this country through the gutter.  Jail, all of them.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1329509841149243406
https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1329508699359023105
https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1329511268970065929


These are such low-quality conspiracy theories.

The Trump campaign's lawyers are basically now down to our own CIA stole the election from Trump?  This is so pathetic.  How much are these people getting paid to humiliate themselves publicly like this.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1329549873516048387

She should be disabarred immediately for this. She is NOT upholding the Constitution, something every lawyer swears an oath to do in every state.

Correct.  Disbar that pathetic loser.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1329557156400599041?s=20

Apparently the judge was a Trump appointee and Federalist Society member.

I don't think anyone should be too worried about what happens if somehow this does go to SCOTUS. I bet even Barrett rules against him.

My real concern right now is the dangerous precedent the actions of Trump and the GOP is setting for the future. Increasingly we only have one political party that is actually "democratic" in any sense of the word. That should not be good no matter what your ideology is.

Don't give the GOP Judges (hacks) too much credit.  Most of them will cheat on the margins like a Bush v. Gore situation.  But you're right, they won't touch this.  This election isn't close.  Pulling something would be too blatant and corrupt even for them.

[Non Swing Voter]

Dominion Voting Systems should consider suing Giuliani and others for slander.

[Non Swing Voter]

So much like election night red states are off to a quick advantage in certification and Trump has way more electoral votes locked up.  Democrats are terrible with optics.

I wonder what we'd find if all these deep red states' election processes were subject to the same scrutiny that the swing states are getting?

Exactly.  The big city vote has been pretty stable.  The places that have had wild upticks in voter participation have mostly been rural (despite population loss). 

This whole thing is a joke and shows how ridiculous the gerrymandering abuse is.  Now Trump is trying to get legislators to overturn state results in places like Michigan, which are only GOP legislatures in the first place because of gerrymandering. 

So basically gerrymander -> legislators pick President -> President puts GOP hack judges -> Judges affirm gerrymandering. 

They basically never get held accountable.  The scary thing is this is exactly what these traitors want.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1329602736053252107

All he does is tweet.  Why the hell does he want to be President for 4 more years?  He clearly has no interest in actually doing his job. 

[Non Swing Voter]

lets be real.  Trump and GOP delayed vote counting to create an environment for conspiracy theories but if it wasn't this it would be something else.  There's an audience among the deplorables for this filth.  I wouldn't worry about this.  I feel like people here are getting worked up to the point that they are stressed out in their personal lives.  Biden will be sworn in.

[Non Swing Voter]

he losin his mind

what is that?

[Non Swing Voter]

The problem with social media is that every 22 year old with persistence and OCD gets national notoriety now.

[Non Swing Voter]

So much like election night red states are off to a quick advantage in certification and Trump has way more electoral votes locked up.  Democrats are terrible with optics.

How are the states' certification date differences the fault of Democrats? Come on now, yeesh.

Democratic states like Virginia didn't even certify on time.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/18/alan-dershowitz-reveals-what-trump-team-legal-challenges-that-could-be-successful-n2580346

I would not be surprised that Dershowitz voted for Trump.

Liberal law professor Alan Dershowitz on Tuesday laid out the Trump campaign's legal strategy for winning the White House through a number of legal challenges. According to Dershowitz, the strategy is to pull electoral votes away from former Vice President Joe Biden.

"The clock is a double-edged sword in this election because if they don't have enough time but if they can put forward a sufficiently strong case then they may be able to get some Republican secretaries of states or legislatures to say, 'Look, we just don't have enough time to certify these electors' and if they can bring down the number of electors, 35 [to] 37, from the 305 and bring it down to 267 or 268 then the election goes to the House, where the Republicans win," he explained.

Dershowitz explained that the Trump Team's legal strategy is to pull enough electors away from Joe Biden that he doesn't meet the 270 threshold by the time the election needs to be certified. He also said there's no possible way for President Trump to get to 270 electoral votes in time.

"The goal is to prevent Biden from getting 270, that's why the clock is a double-edged sword," he said.

According to the Harvard professor, Bush v. Gore will be referenced if and when the Trump campaign's case makes its way to the Supreme Court. The reason: Trump's Team is focusing on the Equal Protection Clause. Their argument is that not all voters were treated equally because some had their ballots counted with an observer while others didn't. Some had rules set by other government officials and not the state legislatures, which the Supreme Court ruled against.

In order for these cases to make their way to the Supreme Court, Dershowitz said "the numbers have to be there," meaning the Trump Team successfully pulls electors away from Biden so the former vice president is no longer at the 270 threshold. The other option is for Trump's lawyers to provide "hard evidence" of irregularities occurring with voting machines, which could call into question hundreds of thousands of votes in various states.

"If that happens, then yes, it will go to the Supreme Court," Dershowitz said. "I think at least under the Constitutional challenge, the Article 2 challenge in Pennsylvania, they have a pretty good chance of winning."

This guy is a perfect example of the perils of lifetime faculty tenure.

[Non Swing Voter]

I would assume that GA will use the recount numbers to certify and will do so today ?

Yes that is what a GA elections guy said on tv earlier. 

They will certify Friday.  Then Trump has 2 business days to request a recount (which of course he will).  Then they'll recount it with machines and hopefully will be done with the process before Thanksgiving.  But certification will occur tomorrow/today depending on time zone.

[Non Swing Voter]

So much like election night red states are off to a quick advantage in certification and Trump has way more electoral votes locked up.  Democrats are terrible with optics.

I wonder what we'd find if all these deep red states' election processes were subject to the same scrutiny that the swing states are getting?

Exactly.  The big city vote has been pretty stable.  The places that have had wild upticks in voter participation have mostly been rural (despite population loss). 

This whole thing is a joke and shows how ridiculous the gerrymandering abuse is.  Now Trump is trying to get legislators to overturn state results in places like Michigan, which are only GOP legislatures in the first place because of gerrymandering. 

So basically gerrymander -> legislators pick President -> President puts GOP hack judges -> Judges affirm gerrymandering. 

They basically never get held accountable.  The scary thing is this is exactly what these traitors want.

Republicans hate America and have done a pretty good job of destroying it. The US might become  just another quasi-fascist banana republic at this rate.

Yes they do and people need to recognize this.  The entire Republican Party is filled with lazy, incompetent losers who lust for power.  They contribute absolutely nothing to society.  Trump is just the latest symptom of this.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1329847884997660677

 Ya'll don't understand what losing Virginia and Georgia does to these white supremacist. It's more than losing a state or some electoral votes. Symbolically losing Virginia and Georgia drives these people nuts.

Losing VA and GA is a big deal.  Once they're gone for the GOP they're gone for a long long time.  This means you go from having 2 conservative GOP senators to 2 very liberal DEM senators.  The demographic change across the South is going to screw the GOP long term.

On that note Stacey Abrams deserves a medal.  There is no state result on the map that can be so single handedly traced back to one persons work more than her in Georgia.  Biden should give her whatever cabinet position she wants.

[Non Swing Voter]

I oppose all violence be it left or right.

I wish we'd just stop and work towards what we believe in peacefully within political means.

I wish Republicans would stop trying to undermine the country and our electoral system.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1329847884997660677

We seriously need some internationally-administered de-Trumpification in this country like we did in Germany after WWII. This behavior is not normal and certainly not an indication of a functioning society.

We need to stop the radicalization on both sides. The violence caused by the blm is worst as they really did commit violence and that isn't a sign of any functioning society either. Acting like this isn't a sad reality isn't going to help the divide in our society as the truth is needed to heal our wounds.

I hope both sides can cool it and find a way to work within a peaceful and civilized manner.

The difference is you are pointing to random political protestors on the left.  Whereas the atrocities and undermining of our society at large is happening straight from the top on the right.  False equivalency.

[Non Swing Voter]

I’m sure losing Georgia is shocking but I think it is FAR from gone for Republicans just because of 2020. Democrats are still underdogs in the runoffs and some of those suburbs may snap right back.

It is going to go like Virginia did.  You'll have a 4 or 5 year period where it snaps to either side until the Democratic Party becomes the dominant party in the state and it eventually becomes a solid blue state.  This transition will happen sooner than people think.  Lets not forget that the FIRST time in the modern era that Virginia flipped in a Presidential race was only 12 years ago and it dropped from the battleground map only 8 years after that...

[Non Swing Voter]

So November 23 is the key date now?  If Michigan and Pennsylvania certify Trump has to move along?

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/TiknisArts/status/1329936404785360898

[Non Swing Voter]

Ok thanks. So PA is next on Monday to certify their vote? If PA goes through with it, then it's pretty much over, right?

Yes, because GA/MI/PA are the three biggest electoral prizes of the battleground states.  If Biden gets certified in all three then even if there was some fluke where Trump could flip Arizona, Wisconsin AND Nevada, Biden would still be at 279 electoral votes. 

It's over.