Palestine college student protest megathread

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The events between Saudi Arabia and Yemen won't affect the Presidential race in Michigan.

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Such a shame that some students were bound and determined to turn a solemn and meaningful ceremony into a political rally for a cause they're very poorly informed about.  The university was not willing to endure such a sad, obnoxious spectacle and instead made the reasonable decision to cancel.  Now all their fellow students who just wanted to enjoy graduation -- especially after missing 2020 high school graduation because of COVID -- are robbed of it because of the selfishness of a few assholes who see the entire world as just a collection of platforms for them to jump up on and chant "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be Arab free"

Are you allergic to acknowledging that there are a sizeable amount of non-problematic protestors that aren't racist and just don't like seeing grandmas and babies getting blown up by bombs or starving to death? It seems like you actively go out of your way to make sure that you don't acknowledge that they exist in your posts.

I will not acknowledge a "sizeable amount".  If they are there, they are not "sizeable" enough to rein in the lunatics.  Nor are they condemning the violent activities of the "protesters" that are, indeed, behaving illegally and violently.  If they were truly "peaceful protesters", they would disengage themselves clearly from the movement and condemn it as terroristic.  In their present status, these "peaceful protesters" are worse than useless; they serve the useful function for the terrorists of being able to deflect attention from their terrorism (as you have done here) to people who don't use their tactics, but who, in their hearts, cheer them on.

The active demonstrators in the streets today are no better than Brownshirts or Klansman; they hate Jews at that level.  And like the Klansmen at various times in our history, or the Brownshirts of 1930s Germany, they had sympathizers who were "peaceful" who were silent in the face of their violence.  There were some White Southerners in 1960s Mississippi who were intimidated into silence by the KKK, even over the murders of Civil Rights, but there were also white Mississippians who, while never participating in violence, were not just OK with the motives of the Klansmen; they silently approved of their tactics and minimized Klan violence.

Are the Palestinian supporters of today any more noble than the KKK and the South's "Never!" faction of the 1960s?  Let's look at some key points:

***The South's "Never" Faction advocated 2nd class citizenship for blacks.  The "River to the Sea" crowd advocates 2nd class citizenship not just for Jews in "Palestine", but for Palestinian Christians as well.

***The South's "Never" faction had a paramilitary arm (the KKK) that carried out violence "supporters" would not want to be associated with.  The "River to the Sea" crowd's paramilitary arm is Hamas, and it's members proclaim themselves to be Hamas not just over in Gaza or "Palestine", but in  America, itself.

***The violence of the South's "Never" faction was not a one-time, event-driven thing; it was an ongoing tactic to maintain the status quo.  The violence of the "River to the Sea" crowd is also not an event-driven phenemonon; it is the way Palestinian Nationalists have operated from the Grand Mufti, to Arafat, to today's Hamas.

Let the non-problematic protesters leave the protesting ranks and condemn the lunatics as terrorist sympathizers.  You once called Tucker Carlson a Stochastic Terrorist.  If you want folks to stop watching Tucker Carlson online, is it too much to ask people to stop participating in demonstrations, the flow of which is determined by those who come the closest to being open terrorists in the US?

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Let the non-problematic protesters leave the protesting ranks and condemn the lunatics as terrorist sympathizers.  You once called Tucker Carlson a Stochastic Terrorist.  If you want folks to stop watching Tucker Carlson online, is it too much to ask people to stop participating in demonstrations, the flow of which is determined by those who come the closest to being open terrorists in the US?

So then how are the non-racists supposed to protest what they consider to be very horrific stuff happening against human rights?

They... can't protest? In a free country?

You begrudged protesting lockdowns by American Citizens in Michigan, so that's rich, coming from you.

They can go on social media.  They can obtain parade permits.  They can speak publicly in public spaces, so long as they do not obstruct the ingress and egress of persons.  They can protest across from synagogues (f they want to) on the sidewalk, so long as they do not block ingress or egress, or engage in threats that rise to the level of an assault, or disrupt the business of worshippers.  They are afforded public platforms left and right.

What they CAN'T do is threaten and intimidate Jewish students.  (They're doing that.)   What they can't do is block peaceful ingress and egress to persons going about their business or to and from their homes.  (They're doing that.)  What they can't do is shout down and forcibly bring to a halt other lawful public assemblies.  (They're doing that.)  What they can't do is profess allegiance to groups classified as terrorist organizations, such as Hamas.  (They're doing that.)

You believed that people didn't have the right to protest COVID-19 restrictions (although BLM and Antifa were fine to go out in the streets).  You believed that no one should ever even raise a word of protest as to the conduct of the 2020 election (which is not an endorsement of illegal J6 activities). Yet you're fine with the Death to America crowd protesting as they are in a Free Country?.  Personally, I think you're like many here; you're only concerned with the rights of the people you politically agree with.

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Physically protesting in a group with other protestors during the pandemic was dangerous and risky, not only to the protestors, but to every other innocent person those protestors were interacting with (grocery store worker, gas station worker, neighbours, roommates, etc etc). Outside of the "spread the virus and get people killed" aspect - which was very important and very relevant - I did not ever take issue with people's right to peacefully protest against COVID policies. That being said, the "spread the virus and get people killed" aspect was a big big deal, and due to this, yes, I had strong objections to those protests.

Yet you raised no objection to BLM and Antifa doing exactly what you (not me, but you) assert would "get people killed".  Not a peep about BLM and Antifa "spreading the virus" from you.  Obviously, it's only blue Atlas Avatars that add to the contagion of COVID-19.

Protesters who continue to take part in protests where it is certain that the violent will do their violence are not "peaceful"; they are enablers of violence.  Lawful protests are not supposed to be "mostly" peaceful; they are supposed to be ENTIRELY peaceful.  People participating in protests where they know that others are illegally occupying properties, blocking the ingress and egress of individuals that merely wish to get from Point A to Point B.  Your very argument enables the violent.  Protesters who attend protests KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE AT THE EVENT are no more "nonviolent" than the people who ride along with others on the way to rob a drug dealer; they are just as bad as the trigger person because their presence helped enable the violence in a knowable and tangible way. 

These pro-Palestinian protesters who continue to protest despite the violence are not decent people.  Not a one.

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Yet you raised no objection to BLM and Antifa doing exactly what you (not me, but you) assert would "get people killed".  Not a peep about BLM and Antifa "spreading the virus" from you.  Obviously, it's only blue Atlas Avatars that add to the contagion of COVID-19.

I'm coming with receipts, Fuzzy. All the evidence that you're lying is right here on this forum.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=370528.msg7377833#msg7377833

There's a bunch more too.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7373196#msg7373196
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7372770#msg7372770
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7372528#msg7372528
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374684#msg7374684
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374672#msg7374672
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374654#msg7374654
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374618#msg7374618
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374591#msg7374591
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375924.msg7378836#msg7378836

When digging for receipts, I also found this :

Protest, not riot.

It's a little too late for that, isn't it.

NO ONE at this point needs to "protest".  No one needs to go out so they can "have their voice heard".  That's because once there is a "peaceful protest", it is joined by people with baser motives (Antifa, ordinary thugs and criminals looking to loot).

Since you aren't a hypocrite, I'll be expecting to see you posting these sentiments in a year or two when there's a big reason for white conservatives to be out protesting.

Very interesting, considering how you've reacted to January 6th.

Those who broke the law that day should be punished.  But they should be punished for the laws they are charged with.  And their rights to counsel, to reasonable bail under the 8th Amendment, to not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment (such as solitary confinement while in pre-trial status), and the right to a speedy trial.  They also have the right to not have acts that are, in fact, political acts protected by the First Amendment, criminalized.

That's for starters.  The public deserves the same "transparency" in Ashlii Babbit's death that people demanded in George Floyd's death and Daunte Wright's death, because Ashlii Babbitt's life mattered as much to God as the lives of those other two. 

"Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent."  So said Adam Smith over 2 centuries ago.  In the case of those affected by Pro-Palestinian violence, he's not wrong.

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Yet you raised no objection to BLM and Antifa doing exactly what you (not me, but you) assert would "get people killed".  Not a peep about BLM and Antifa "spreading the virus" from you.  Obviously, it's only blue Atlas Avatars that add to the contagion of COVID-19.

I'm coming with receipts, Fuzzy. All the evidence that you're lying is right here on this forum.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=370528.msg7377833#msg7377833

There's a bunch more too.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7373196#msg7373196
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7372770#msg7372770
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7372528#msg7372528
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374684#msg7374684
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374672#msg7374672
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374654#msg7374654
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374618#msg7374618
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375381.msg7374591#msg7374591
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=375924.msg7378836#msg7378836

When digging for receipts, I also found this :

Protest, not riot.

It's a little too late for that, isn't it.

NO ONE at this point needs to "protest".  No one needs to go out so they can "have their voice heard".  That's because once there is a "peaceful protest", it is joined by people with baser motives (Antifa, ordinary thugs and criminals looking to loot).

Since you aren't a hypocrite, I'll be expecting to see you posting these sentiments in a year or two when there's a big reason for white conservatives to be out protesting.

Very interesting, considering how you've reacted to January 6th.

Your "receipts" are the sort of worthless "I condemn all violence!" statements that don't name the perpetrators.  Your reaction was ignored by BLM and Antifa because they were still getting moral support for their cause.

The right thing to have done was to have unambiguously withdrawn ALL support for organizations that CLEARLY had no desire to restrain rioters, to where the perpetrators of crime (BLM and Antifa) recognized that they were out there all alone.

Your "receipts" are an attempt to have it both ways during a time when what was needed was unequivocal condemnation for BLM and Antifa.  Sorry, but there's no virtue in your signal when you look at the entire picture.

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"Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent."  So said Adam Smith over 2 centuries ago.  In the case of those affected by Pro-Palestinian violence, he's not wrong.

I do agree about those committing pro-Palestinian violence on college campuses. They are titantium HPs, for sure. I only support PEACEFUL protests. Adam Smith was also not wrong in regards to only Babbit being being shot and killed. Maybe if they had shown less mercy to the guilty and shot more of the traitors early on, the insurrection wouldn't have gotten as out of hand as it did.

But you don't apply this to BLM rioters, who received nothing but mercy after trashing multiple cities.

You had your chance to meaningfully oppose BLM violence and you blew it.

Your comments on J6 protestors are excessive hyperbole at best.  The people that make those comments always seem to be the most adamant against the release of ALL of the video of J6.  Just sayin'.   

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dRSFL8A5M

Live feed. The protesters have announced that they won't leave until their demands are met, which is at the bare minimum divestment from weapons manufactures, or are moved by force.

Instead of good faith negotiations all they've done is weaponize the NYPD goons and make empty threats against any student they have leverage over.

I hope they stand firm. The people, and certainly the youth, of NY are with them.

The police need to clear them out, and arrest all who refuse to leave.

It's the demonstrators that are the goons.

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Also, this entire movement showed its true face when it organized mass rallies immediately after 10/7 celebrating the slaughter, before Israel had struck back. No matter what they say their demands are, they showed their cards on day one and they will never be allowed to cover that up.

Support for Palestine is still low. But Israel, after having suffered the second worst killing of Jews since the Holocaust (the worst was in Argentina during the dirty war, where tens of thousands of socialists, 12% of them Jews, were killed with weapons bought from the IDF) has lost an incredible amount of goodwill and the polls reflect that too. Pre 10/7 the average American was probably a soft Israel supporter, now the average American says screw em both.

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1785006429625074159

Lol, even I don't go this far.

That’s objectively insane, why would anyone support this?

This is not a new idea.  Sen. Jacob Javits (R-L, NY) proposed this in the 1970s.  It didn't get very far, but it's not a new idea.

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It's so weird to see leftists bring up police killing protestors. I haven't seen anyone on the right advocate for this, which is surprising how we keep being told they very self-evidently want it. I'm starting to wonder if it's in fact the leftists who keep bringing this up who actually want to see it and feigning concern to voice this opinion...

Holy hell.

Talk about trying to mischaracterise an argument!  Kent State did not happen on the orders of politicians; it happened because Guardsmen got itchy trigger fingers after politicians wanted to look tough by sending armed soldiers onto a university campus which ended in an entirely predictable result.

Kent State was not a "protest"; it was a riot.

What is going on at Columbia right now is criminal activity.  False imprisonment of people.  Destruction of property.  Blocking ingress and egress.  Occupying buildings in a manner which constitutes burglary.
These people have not been exercising their 1st Amendment rights for some time.  

To minimize the destruction of property in all of this is, of course, ignorant.  The right to Property is on a par with the right to Life and the right to Liberty; it is not to be taken without due process of law.  And it is a right that is to be defended by the government, and it is a right people have the right to defend.

People the World over come to America because in so much of the World, people can just have their stuff taken by people solely because they can.  Some of it is racial or ethnic concerns that drive the deprivation of property rights.  Some of it is simply because you're a political enemy.  Millions of people who came to America legally were people who suffered this in their home countries and were grateful that America wouldn't be like that.

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It's so weird to see leftists bring up police killing protestors. I haven't seen anyone on the right advocate for this, which is surprising how we keep being told they very self-evidently want it. I'm starting to wonder if it's in fact the leftists who keep bringing this up who actually want to see it and feigning concern to voice this opinion...

Holy hell.

Talk about trying to mischaracterise an argument!  Kent State did not happen on the orders of politicians; it happened because Guardsmen got itchy trigger fingers after politicians wanted to look tough by sending armed soldiers onto a university campus which ended in an entirely predictable result.

Kent State was not a "protest"; it was a riot.

What is going on at Columbia right now is criminal activity.  False imprisonment of people.  Destruction of property.  Blocking ingress and egress.  Occupying buildings in a manner which constitutes burglary.
These people have not been exercising their 1st Amendment rights for some time.  

To minimize the destruction of property in all of this is, of course, ignorant.  The right to Property is on a par with the right to Life and the right to Liberty; it is not to be taken without due process of law.  And it is a right that is to be defended by the government, and it is a right people have the right to defend.

People the World over come to America because in so much of the World, people can just have their stuff taken by people solely because they can.  Some of it is racial or ethnic concerns that drive the deprivation of property rights.  Some of it is simply because you're a political enemy.  Millions of people who came to America legally were people who suffered this in their home countries and were grateful that America wouldn't be like that.

You supported an attempted self-coup; if these people were Trump supporters, you would gladly be on their side.

1.  J6 was not an attempted coup.  There was rioting that got out of hand.

2.   I support the prosecution of J6ers who actually committed crimes.  I oppose them being upcharged, being denied their Constitutional Rights (including the rights to counsel, to reasonable bail, and to not be subject to cruel and unusual punishments, particularly in the pre-trial phase.

As for the National Guard on J6:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-alleges-pelosi-turned-down-10000-soldiers-capitol-riot-responsible-jan-6

The decision on whether to call National Guard troops to the Capitol is made by what is known as the Capitol Police Board, which is made up of the House sergeant at arms, the Senate sergeant at arms and the architect of the Capitol. The board decided not to call the Guard ahead of Jan. 6 but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun, and the troops arrived several hours later, according to the Associated Press.

If you want to call me on an issue, do your homework.

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Iran University Offers Scholarships to Expelled US Students

This seems to be a win-win scenario. Most of those students support the Iran-backed houthis and hamas ans hate the US. So they get to join their dream country while the US is finally rid of them.

So long as they renounce their American citizenship and are denied passports to return to America ever again, I'm cool with this.

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Where's the condemnation from the press and politicians on the racism of the counter-protestors here?


https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1786223536446525567

It's not the proper response and this individual is clearly wrong.  And I'll even go further and say that Tate Reeves should have had the good sense not to cheer this on.  But it pales in comparison to the harm and damage the pro-Palestinian posters have done.  The scope of this behavior in response to the protests pales in comparison to the threatening, harassment, and violence toward Jewish students in multiple states across the nation, and, even in other countries.  It pales in comparison to the overall display of hatred the pro-Palestinians have displayed, not just for the IDF and Bibi, but for Jews (including the Jews in their midst) and for America and Americans. 

The pro-Palestinian protests have been VIOLENT protests.  As they are protests that have been infiltrated by actual terrorists (people are not denying that they are Hamas), they have systematically terrorized Jewish students.  Judging by your signature (a photo of the late Marxist leader of Burkina Faso), you're an open Marxist, and you sympathize with the allyship between Marxists and Hamas that drive these protests.  This is a situation of complaining about the (relative) speck in another's eye while ignoring the plank in your own.

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Where's the condemnation from the press and politicians on the racism of the counter-protestors here?

You can't pull a "Look, the other side is bad too" if you don't actually condemn the hundreds of documented cases of antisemitism, mass property damage, assault, etc from the mobs.

I do, so I can easily say screw this racist frat boy too!

Most pro-Palestine users condemn anti-semetism and assault / violence, genius. It should go without saying. Claiming or implying that the majority of the supporters of the protests support that stuff is just a strawman used to make us look bad. If the anti-protestors side wants to win the battle of ideas, operating in good faith is a prerequisite.

That's a falsehood.  I won't say you're lying, because you have actually talked yourself into believing it.

Your side in this matter deserves the bad look you get.

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It's not the proper response and this individual is clearly wrong.  And I'll even go further and say that Tate Reeves should have had the good sense not to cheer this on.  But it pales in comparison to the harm and damage the pro-Palestinian posters have done.  The scope of this behavior in response to the protests pales in comparison to the threatening, harassment, and violence toward Jewish students in multiple states across the nation, and, even in other countries.  It pales in comparison to the overall display of hatred the pro-Palestinians have displayed, not just for the IDF and Bibi, but for Jews (including the Jews in their midst) and for America and Americans.  

The pro-Palestinian protests have been VIOLENT protests.  As they are protests that have been infiltrated by actual terrorists (people are not denying that they are Hamas), they have systematically terrorized Jewish students.

There are CLEARLY bad actors on both sides here (the protestors and counter-protestors). This isn't debatable. The evidence that this is true is overwhelming and well-documented.

However, to claim that the amount of hatred and violence being done by pro-Palestinian protestors is way more than the other side, and to imply that a significant amount of a majority of the protestors are violent or hateful, is a claim that intelligent people should not take at face value without it being properly demonstrated with FERL (facts evidence reasoning logic). Where's the FERL?

The ratio of pro-Palestinian bad actors to opposition to bad actors is 99-1.

The "other" bad actors aren't committing burglaries, falsely imprisoning people, prohibiting ingress and egress to where people need to go.  The Pro-Palestinian posters are.  They're the ones committing the actual crimes.  The sad thing is that George Gascon and Alvin Bragg are Leftist Scum that won't prosecute these people for what there is probable cause for the crimes they have done.

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The ratio of pro-Palestinian bad actors to opposition to bad actors is 99-1.

I don't think you live in the real world, Fuzzy. Based on your posts, you don't seem interested in discovering what the actual truth is, as demonstrated by evidence or logic. You seem way more interested in what your gut or your right wing propaganda tells you. My reason for believing this is your propensity to make outrageous claims and then refuse to demonstrate why they're true. This is your right in a free country, but it is other peoples' right to point and laugh at you when you spout this nonsense.

I've demonstrated that they're true.  You would not admit the obvious. 

I've been alive longer than you and I've NEVER seen the Palestinians willing to be reasonable.  Each and every faction of Arab Palestinians are Arab Nationalists and (to varying degrees) Islamic Jihadists.  If this is up for debate, you haven't been paying attention. 

Public support for "Palestine" depends on creating new narratives of how the "Palestinians" have been displaced, etc.  Yet no Arab state has opened their doors to them.  Why is that?  They are making an "indigenous" claim to "Palestine", but the Jews have a far more valid "indigenous" claim (if we're going that route).  And there's a bottom line here.  The bottom line is that if Hamas surrenders and disarms, there will be peace, but if Israel surrenders and disarms, it will be crushed.  I see no reason not to believe that you secretly wish for the latter outcome, and you're not alone on this forum, sad to say.

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How American to kick out people cause you don’t like what they’re saying

We don't let people into the country because we don't like what they're saying.  This includes proven Nazis, Communists,  Jihadic Terrorists, and many others.  And we don't allow their supporters in either.

Hamas is Jihadist Terrorism.  We would not allow pro-Hamas persons into the US if they weren't here.  Why should we allow people who actively support Jihadist Terrorism to remain in the country when they are not citizens, and especially if they are only here on a temporary visa?

When people who are not citizens and are here on a temporary Visa should "Death to America" or declare an Intifada on America, it's time for them to go.  We are under no obligation to assist in our own destruction as a nation.  We have enough nutty citizens.  We don't have to accommodate nutty foreigners, particularly when they wish our destruction and support a terrorist organization.

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How American to kick out people cause you don’t like what they’re saying

We don't let people into the country because we don't like what they're saying.  This includes proven Nazis, Communists,  Jihadic Terrorists, and many others.  And we don't allow their supporters in either.

Hamas is Jihadist Terrorism.  We would not allow pro-Hamas persons into the US if they weren't here.  Why should we allow people who actively support Jihadist Terrorism to remain in the country when they are not citizens, and especially if they are only here on a temporary visa?

When people who are not citizens and are here on a temporary Visa should "Death to America" or declare an Intifada on America, it's time for them to go.  We are under no obligation to assist in our own destruction as a nation.  We have enough nutty citizens.  We don't have to accommodate nutty foreigners, particularly when they wish our destruction and support a terrorist organization.

The United States is the most welcoming country for free speech. Why should the first amendment not apply to foreign nationals?

The First Amendment applies to persons.  The First Amendment does not guarantee persons the right to remain in the US or become citizens if they are not going to be loyal citizens.  (And Hamas sympathizers, by virtue of their proclamations of Intifida and "Death to America" clearly signal their intent to not be loyal.

We won't throw them in jail for their speech, but their speech can impeach their character to the point where we can conclude that they are not fit to be citizens, and that they do not intend to be loyal Americans.  And past loyalties are not "speech"; they are "conduct"; a member of Hamas (there or here) has defined themself as an enemy of America.  We do not have to take in our enemies.

I would also state that the problem with the current demonstrations on campus in support of Hamas is about conduct; it's about False Imprisonment, Criminal Mischief, assault, battery, and other crimes.
That's not protected speech, but that IS what is happening.  (And, yes, these demonstrations are pro-Hamas; that's who's running the show in Gaza.)  People have the right to be stupid in America in their speech and lots of people on all ends of the political spectrum take advantage of that, but the right to be stupid and offensive does not include behavior that infringes on the rights to life, liberty, and property of others.

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FIU student asks at a hearing, “are we, anti-Jewish students, not worth protection?” Oops.

https://twitter.com/henmazzig/status/1788245458248446071?s=61&t=aUnV_wcn5XeE...

The correct answer to the young lady is:  "Yes, you deserve protection, but the Jewish students deserve protection from you, specifically, and people like you who openly profess to be "anti-Jewish".

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A Shai Davidai wannabe is now facing the consequences for his depraved actions. He doesn't look too unsafe to me.

https://twitter.com/phoenixnewtimes/status/1788665847122464824?t=S_puDlSUog_NkPk...

He shouldn't have done what he did and he earned his firing.

The folks this young woman have been with, unlikely, have, indeed, been violating the rights of others, and she's ok with that in all likelihood.  The most I'll say on her behalf is that (A) she has the same right to not be threatened or coerced, and (B) a professor on a campus she attends behaving this way is inexcusable.  But far more Jewish students have been in her shoes, and far more Jewish students have been harassed by radical profs.  I wonder if she has any empathy for those students who do not share her cause, but who were/are in her shoes.

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Not usually a fan of Time magazine but this photo really sums up the protests well: a woman flashing a “peace” sign while dressed up as a terrorist.

By assuming that everyone who wears a keffiyah is a terrorist, you're directly spreading anti-Muslim hatred.

That is definitely not how a keffiyah is typically worn - it's being used to evoke Hamas here.

Which still does not erase my point.

Your point is ridiculous.  These demonstrators are, at a minimum, allies of Hamas, if not actual Hamas members.  They are sending a message to America:  "Hamas is HERE!".  "Intifada is HERE!".  It's posing, and it's posing to deliberately inspire fear.

If these demonstrations were about "winning hearts and minds", they are certainly going about it the wrong way.  But they're not; they're using tactics of naked intimidation that are consistent with Hamas, whom some demonstrators have openly announced their support for.  And, as Ray Goldfield says, the use of the keffiyeh here is PLAINLY used to evoke Hamas.  

As to "Islamophobic":  Hamas is not only a designated terrorist organizations; it is a Jihadic organization as well.  The presence of Jews in "Palestine" is unacceptable to them, and any Palestinian State where Hamas was allowed to be active in would be a state where open Jihadists would be tolerated, if not overtly encouraged.  Now a lot of today's demonstrators are either unaware, or in denial of the Jihadic nature of Hamas, which is the actual governing authority of Gaza.  When members of such a terrorist and Jihadist group declare an Intifada on Israel (which means Jews) and on America, there is something to be phobic (afraid) of.  The suggestion that people don't; that it's all "Islamophobia" is ill-intentioned Gaslighting.

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Your point is ridiculous.  These demonstrators are, at a minimum, allies of Hamas, if not actual Hamas members.  They are sending a message to America:  "Hamas is HERE!".  "Intifada is HERE!".  It's posing, and it's posing to deliberately inspire fear.

Without commenting on the larger argument here the idea that college students in the US are "Hamas members" is really, really absurd.

True enough.  But not all of the demonstrators on campus are college students.  Hamas wouldn't have a lot of those kids, and a lot of those kids would be horrified if they were to find out from actual Hamas members who and what they're "partnering with".

I will agree with the idea that many of these uninformed and immature young adults (and the demonstrators are both of these; I won't take that back.) know how they're dressing, and what they're saying, but I don't know that they fully understand what they're DOING at a number of levels. I certainly regret stupid things I did in my youth and young adulthood.  I don't despise the misinformed students.  I do despise the professional protestors and agitators that are driving a good deal of the violence here, and my contempt for the organizations that are funding this turmoil is contempt is significant and fully deserved.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Your point is ridiculous.  These demonstrators are, at a minimum, allies of Hamas, if not actual Hamas members.  They are sending a message to America:  "Hamas is HERE!".  "Intifada is HERE!".  It's posing, and it's posing to deliberately inspire fear.

Without commenting on the larger argument here the idea that college students in the US are "Hamas members" is really, really absurd.

Yeah I disagree with that . Saying though they are useful idiots for Islamists is completely correct though

There have been people who have said these exact things, however. 

Is Hamas actually here?  Is an Intifada on America underway?  Not all of these protesters are students; some are clearly outside agitators who do this as a way of life, and this has already been established.  It may be nothing more than a "Boo!" game, but "Boo!" games are designed to intimidate and frighten.  There should be no question that the intent of many in these protests (including those who are driving these protests) is to intimidate and frighten, and the intimidation and frightening is intended to go beyond scaring Democrats into believing that Michigan goes for Trump while Dearborn votes for 3rd party candidates.

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https://twitter.com/TheFIREorg/status/1790471930488750514

As I said earlier Texas is being disgusting on free speech and needs to be sued for what they are doing.

Universities banning people from speaking arabic? Isn't America supposed to be the home of freedom or something like that? Amazing.

You didn't make this argument when people were deplatformed for alleging that we were funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-nih-repeatedly-refutes-ecohealth-alliance-president-dr-peter-daszaks-testimony-tabak-testimony-reveals-federal-grant-procedures-in-need-of-serious-reform/

Key Hearing Takeaways

NIH Deputy Director and former Acting NIH Director, Dr. Lawrence Tabak, acknowledged that NIH funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China.

Dr. Lawrence Tabak repeatedly refuted EcoHealth Alliance President Dr. Peter Daszak’s public and private testimonies. It is now clear that Dr. Daszak misled both the Select Subcommittee and the NIH on numerous occasions.

Serious shortcomings and failures in the NIH’s grant awarding and grant oversight procedures enabled EcoHealth to facilitate gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China. These NIH deficiencies were exploited by Dr. Daszak and his team in an effort to avoid oversight and maintain funding.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ (HHS) decision to immediately suspend funding and commence debarment proceedings against EcoHealth is backed by substantial evidence and necessary to protect America’s national security.  

The Select Subcommittee also recommends that HHS immediately begin debarment proceedings against Dr. Peter Daszak personally.

The NIH often lacks the necessary subject matter and scientific expertise to ensure U.S. taxpayer funds are spent and overseen safely. Dr. Tabak testified to these gaps in NIH’s system today, and former NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins recounted similar problems during his transcribed interview found here.

The Select Subcommittee’s investigation into EcoHealth’s impropriety is far from over. Chairman Wenstrup appreciates Dr. Tabak’s honesty today and intends to use his testimony to hold EcoHealth accountable for its facilitation of gain-of-function research and its blatant contempt for the American taxpayer.

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