Opinion of the LGBTQ strike in Israel

[DC Al Fine]

I think paid surrogacy is exploitative and should be illegal for everyone, so horrible strike.

I see- there are many people who oppose surrogacy but support the strike because this law allows surrogacy but directly discriminates against homosexuals. What's your take on this?

I'm not OhioGuy but I have a similar stance...

No because the implication of the strike would be to liberalize the law. That said, you mentioned that another reason for the strike was because a trans person was stabbed. I don't know the particulars of the incident but if the cops aren't protecting people from violence, that's as good a reason as any to protest.

[DC Al Fine]

I know it's shocking, but not everyone agrees with your opinion. Some people happen to believe that surrogacy is a completely legitimate process and that "commodifying the womb" isn't different from commodifying the hands of a construction worker. Others also happen to believe that surrogacy is wildly different from prostitution in its mental impact, and that the prostitution industry is horrible while the surrogacy "industry" is doing no harm, so the comparison you're going to make in the next comment is moot.

I'm sure there are legitimate arguments for your side on this issue. But using wild hyperboles and delegitimizing everyone you oppose isn't a good look, and is very unconstructive for an argument. Disappointing.

Yes, I can read the comments above mine and read the results of the poll. I'm aware that an overwhelming majority of posters on this forum disagree with me.

It's awfully strange to open an "opinion of" thread and then lecture someone for having the temerity to disagree with you in strong terms.

I don't lecture someone for disagreeing with me, as you could see from my replies to other posters. I do find it disappointing that you imply everyone who disagrees with you is "sick and screwed up".

How exactly would you phrase a criticism of a culture that accepts something you find reprehensible?

It's an indication of how sick and screwed up we are that the strongest popular reaction to commodifying the womb like this is discontent with its discriminatory application. Any limitation that reduces the amount of paid surrogacy is better than none, but it's unfortunate that workers are not instead striking to recall every MP who voted to allow this.

I know it's shocking, but not everyone agrees with your opinion. Some people happen to believe that surrogacy is a completely legitimate process and that "commodifying the womb" isn't different from commodifying the hands of a construction worker.

If there's any insight social conservatives have to offer the public square it's that reproductive organs are very, very different from callused hands and strong backs.

[DC Al Fine]

I know it's shocking, but not everyone agrees with your opinion. Some people happen to believe that surrogacy is a completely legitimate process and that "commodifying the womb" isn't different from commodifying the hands of a construction worker. Others also happen to believe that surrogacy is wildly different from prostitution in its mental impact, and that the prostitution industry is horrible while the surrogacy "industry" is doing no harm, so the comparison you're going to make in the next comment is moot.

I'm sure there are legitimate arguments for your side on this issue. But using wild hyperboles and delegitimizing everyone you oppose isn't a good look, and is very unconstructive for an argument. Disappointing.

Yes, I can read the comments above mine and read the results of the poll. I'm aware that an overwhelming majority of posters on this forum disagree with me.

It's awfully strange to open an "opinion of" thread and then lecture someone for having the temerity to disagree with you in strong terms.

I don't lecture someone for disagreeing with me, as you could see from my replies to other posters. I do find it disappointing that you imply everyone who disagrees with you is "sick and screwed up".

How exactly would you phrase a criticism of a culture that accepts something you find reprehensible?

How about "surrogacy is sick and screwed up"?

That's the practice not the culture. How would you criticize the culture

If there's any insight social conservatives have to offer the public square it's that reproductive organs are very, very different from callused hands and strong backs.

I disagree.

No one in the history of the universe has ever gotten pregnant from building houses. That alone is a BFD.