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DC Al Fine
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« on: July 03, 2013, 05:13:10 AM »

Indifferent sect
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 08:51:30 PM »

Leaving aside their politics in the ongoing Syrian Civil War, what about their theology is so objectionable that they deserve the horrible sect label?

You can't leave aside the politics. Being the source of support for a brutal and murderous dictator is not a positive thing.

At least try to see the other side of the argument. Not all the rebels are for liberal democracy and not all the Assad supporters are blood thirsty goons.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2013, 06:29:29 AM »

Leaving aside their politics in the ongoing Syrian Civil War, what about their theology is so objectionable that they deserve the horrible sect label?

You can't leave aside the politics. Being the source of support for a brutal and murderous dictator is not a positive thing.

At least try to see the other side of the argument. Not all the rebels are for liberal democracy

True.

and not all the Assad supporters are blood thirsty goons.

Why on Earth would you support him otherwise? If you want a brutal and murderous dictator to keep oppressing and killing people...


Off the top of my head.

1) Alawite tribalism
2) Fear of persecution should the rebels win
3) Believing that the rebels will oppress & kill people even more than Assad

There's an Iraqi couple at my church who think Saddam Hussein was the best leader ever because he kept the Islamists in line. Not bloodthirsty people, but they supported a dictator. Life's complicated.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 12:49:52 PM »

Eh, the problem is that the people who grow up and end up changing from what they were raised with usually do so because of environmental factors that again loop back to how they were raised. It generally requires an open atmosphere that is socially welcoming to change, where a person can change without massive costs such as loss of family, friends, community, career, domicile, position in society, etc. or the sinking of massive life costs.

For instance, people who were raised in religiously liberal households are more likely to convert to a new religion, whereas those raised religiously strict are more likely to convert to a different version of their previous religion which still allows them to keep their background relevant. So, for instance, Rodney Stark finds evidence that the highest rates of early adoption of Christianity in the 1st century CE was from Hellenized Jews. Christianity was perfect for them because it allowed them to still retain their Jewish identity while at the same time integrating into the Hellenic world. Similarly, when there is inter-faith marriage, the person with the lesser attachment to faith tends to convert to the religion of the more devout partner. The costs for that person from conversion are lower than vice versa.

So bottom line, it is not just a matter of who can escape their upbringing but the extent to which they do, and the costs of doing so.

Could you please provide a link? I'd like to check that out.
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