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Bono
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« on: May 15, 2005, 11:14:34 AM »

He is in no way neo-conservative.

And I love him for that.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2005, 01:47:02 PM »

He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

What do you find hilarious?

The fact that former communists are conducting the foreign policy bitchfights on the right?

He probably likes dark humor.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2005, 01:54:00 PM »

Yes, BRTD is a blood-thirsty Jerry Falwell Republican!

What's the resemblance betwen Jerry Falwel and a comie jew posing as a conservative?
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2005, 02:07:44 PM »



Oh yeah, look at the guy in my signature. How do neo-cons feel toward him?

They love him, he's one of their own.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2005, 01:44:46 AM »

He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

I seriously don't see how that's so funny. The information about neo-conservatism coming out of Social Democrats USA is absolutely true and BRTD's tendency to want to overthrow every government he doesn't like, although whether he wants a Communist dictatorship or a true Democracy to come out of these overthrown governments is up in the air.

Maybe the Illuminati are in on it? Hmm...Sorry I really just have to see some evidence.

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"Neoconservatism as an "ex-leftist" movement

Lind further writes that neoconservatism "originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ("Scoop") Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.'" When the Cold War ended, "many 'paleoliberals' drifted back to the Democratic center... Today's neocons are a shrunken remnant of the original broad neocon coalition. Nevertheless, the origins of their ideology on the left are still apparent. The fact that most of the younger neocons were never on the left is irrelevant; they are the intellectual (and, in the case of William Kristol and John Podhoretz, the literal) heirs of older ex-leftists." [6] (http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040223&c=2&s=lind)

In particular, Lind argues that the neoconservatives are influenced by the thought of Trotskyists such as James Burnham and Max Shachtman, who argued that "the United States and similar societies are dominated by a decadent, postbourgeois 'new class'". He sees the neoconservative concept of "global democratic revolution" as deriving from the Trotskyist Fourth International's "vision of permanent revolution". He also points to what he sees as the Marxist origin of "the economic determinist idea that liberal democracy is an epiphenomenon of capitalism", which he describes as "Marxism with entrepreneurs substituted for proletarians as the heroic subjects of history." [7] (http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040223&c=2&s=lind)

Lind further argues that "The organization as well as the ideology of the neoconservative movement has left-liberal origins". He draws a line from the center-left anti-Communist Congress for Cultural Freedom to the Committee on the Present Danger to the Project for the New American Century and adds that "European social democratic models inspired the quintessential neocon institution, the National Endowment for Democracy." [8]
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