Jewish Vote in 2030

[Akno21]

Most Jews I know, through family and friends, are fairly liberal on social issues, and only lean Conservative because they are extremly rich.

Jews are not single-issue voters, no matter what the Republicans say.

[Akno21]

26 years from now? It all depends on Israel.

Israel won't be necessarily the issue in 2030. It's fairly possible that the conflict will be solved somehow before that.

And Michael Moore will be a frequent visitor and friend at the Crawford Ranch as well.

[Akno21]

Here's a question: Do YOU care about Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey? Of course you don't. You couldn't care less. Fortunately, though, American Jews are finally beginning to realize that we are not Israelis, we are Americans.

Congratulations. I, for one, am proud to be in the 80% of Jews that cares enough about my own country to not vote based solely on Israel.

(and no, I don't support the Palestinians)

Right on, Cashcow! I am proud to be in the 80% as well.

[Akno21]

Here's a question: Do YOU care about Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey? Of course you don't. You couldn't care less. Fortunately, though, American Jews are finally beginning to realize that we are not Israelis, we are Americans.

Congratulations. I, for one, am proud to be in the 80% of Jews that cares enough about my own country to not vote based solely on Israel.

(and no, I don't support the Palestinians)

Right on, Cashcow! I am proud to be in the 80% as well.

Irish Catholics USED to be an 80% bloc for Kennedy.  Damn church duping it's members via "voters guides."

I'm proud to say my temple did not tell me how to vote one way or the other Although there is that Committee Chairman who looks exactly like Bob Ehrlich....

My temple has a female lesbian has the rabbi, I don't think they exactly want us voting on fundamental religous values.

[Akno21]

Here's a question: Do YOU care about Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey? Of course you don't. You couldn't care less. Fortunately, though, American Jews are finally beginning to realize that we are not Israelis, we are Americans.

Congratulations. I, for one, am proud to be in the 80% of Jews that cares enough about my own country to not vote based solely on Israel.

(and no, I don't support the Palestinians)

Right on, Cashcow! I am proud to be in the 80% as well.

Irish Catholics USED to be an 80% bloc for Kennedy.  Damn church duping it's members via "voters guides."

I'm proud to say my temple did not tell me how to vote one way or the other Although there is that Committee Chairman who looks exactly like Bob Ehrlich....

My temple has a female lesbian has the rabbi, I don't think they exactly want us voting on fundamental religous values.

It seems like your church cares about what its members think.  Funny, Allyson Schwartz, the lone woman in my signature, is active at her synagogue.  We had voters guides shoved down our throats coming out of Mass that heavily favored the GOP.  We also have "Generation Life" getting 15 minutes at the end of Mass as well not only making Mass longer, but shoving down stuff I don't care to listen to.  

I'm not saying I'm getting Bar Mitzvahed, but I wish the Catholic church would be more open minded about stuff.  It's really ashame the Catholic church is quietly turning a lot of people off, including myself.  

In all conversations with people at my temple, politics has never come up. No one passed out flyers saying "vote Joe" in January 2004. All the leaders always give boring talks about being inclusive to everyone, so naturally they don't mention politics, because politics is naturally exclusive.

[Akno21]

Here's a question: Do YOU care about Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey? Of course you don't. You couldn't care less. Fortunately, though, American Jews are finally beginning to realize that we are not Israelis, we are Americans.

Congratulations. I, for one, am proud to be in the 80% of Jews that cares enough about my own country to not vote based solely on Israel.

(and no, I don't support the Palestinians)

Right on, Cashcow! I am proud to be in the 80% as well.

Irish Catholics USED to be an 80% bloc for Kennedy.  Damn church duping it's members via "voters guides."

I'm proud to say my temple did not tell me how to vote one way or the other Although there is that Committee Chairman who looks exactly like Bob Ehrlich....

My temple has a female lesbian has the rabbi, I don't think they exactly want us voting on fundamental religous values.

It seems like your church cares about what its members think.  Funny, Allyson Schwartz, the lone woman in my signature, is active at her synagogue.  We had voters guides shoved down our throats coming out of Mass that heavily favored the GOP.  We also have "Generation Life" getting 15 minutes at the end of Mass as well not only making Mass longer, but shoving down stuff I don't care to listen to.  
 

And if you don't care to listen to what the Church believes, I'm sorry but maybe you should leave.

Believe me I'm thinking heavily about it.  My parents are making that thought very difficult though.  Then again, I'm glad pro-choice Catholics are standing up to the conservatives, so I may not go anywhere on my own regardless of my parents.  I generally believe what the church says on a lot of issues.  There are certain ones I will dispute though.

Please answer my question about Democratic candidates going to Protestant churches, campaigning for votes from the pulpit. Do you think that is wrong?

I do, although I don't think Kerry was going after swing voters when he went in there. Getting voters to vote against their interests based on religion is worse than having a politician speak at a church.

[Akno21]

Here's a question: Do YOU care about Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey? Of course you don't. You couldn't care less. Fortunately, though, American Jews are finally beginning to realize that we are not Israelis, we are Americans.

Congratulations. I, for one, am proud to be in the 80% of Jews that cares enough about my own country to not vote based solely on Israel.

(and no, I don't support the Palestinians)

Right on, Cashcow! I am proud to be in the 80% as well.

Irish Catholics USED to be an 80% bloc for Kennedy.  Damn church duping it's members via "voters guides."

I'm proud to say my temple did not tell me how to vote one way or the other Although there is that Committee Chairman who looks exactly like Bob Ehrlich....

My temple has a female lesbian has the rabbi, I don't think they exactly want us voting on fundamental religous values.

It seems like your church cares about what its members think.  Funny, Allyson Schwartz, the lone woman in my signature, is active at her synagogue.  We had voters guides shoved down our throats coming out of Mass that heavily favored the GOP.  We also have "Generation Life" getting 15 minutes at the end of Mass as well not only making Mass longer, but shoving down stuff I don't care to listen to.  
 

And if you don't care to listen to what the Church believes, I'm sorry but maybe you should leave.

Believe me I'm thinking heavily about it.  My parents are making that thought very difficult though.  Then again, I'm glad pro-choice Catholics are standing up to the conservatives, so I may not go anywhere on my own regardless of my parents.  I generally believe what the church says on a lot of issues.  There are certain ones I will dispute though.

Please answer my question about Democratic candidates going to Protestant churches, campaigning for votes from the pulpit. Do you think that is wrong?

I do, although I don't think Kerry was going after swing voters when he went in there. Getting voters to vote against their interests based on religion is worse than having a politician speak at a church.

What don't you get? When someone bases their vote on their religious belief, it is in their interest.

And what does it matter if Kerry wasn't going after swing voters? It's still using the Church to get votes. The Catholic Church would never allow a candidate to get up on the altar and give a campaign speech, even if it was for a candidate they agreed with 100%. And if that was to ever happen for whatever reason, I would oppose it. I find no problem with the Church saying "We believe in this as Catholics and so we should vote this way." It's totally different when a candidate gets up and starts giving his stump speech.

If I were a swing voter, I'd be more impressed with a candidate if someone spent time telling me about the issues than I would listening to a stump speech. I am not defending Kerry's actions.

Basically, there were cases of unemployed people planning to vote Kerry based on economics and foriegn policy, and then the church dragged them into a back room and showed them anti-abortion propaganda. They voted Bush.