Fringe battleground question

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

The odds of these two outcomes are virtually identical on betting sites at ~12%.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

The odds of these two outcomes are virtually identical on betting sites at ~12%.

That's far too high for either of them.

I think Biden's ceiling in Indiana is probably around 45% And that's if everything goes his way, GOP turnout is suppressed, and he wins back half of the Obama-Trump voters and pretty much all of the Gary Johnson voters.

I just can't see it happening.

I also just can't see Trump winning Virginia, even if everything goes his way.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

VA is only safe D. IN is titanium R - a D win is impossible at the federal level in this political generation.

The formula for a Democrat winning Indiana has changed since 2008, but it's still possible. A moderate, Midwestern Democrat with blue collar appeal could win the state against an unpopular Republican in a year that overwhelmingly favors Democrats.

And a moderate Republican with impeccable military credentials could win VA.

No states are "titanium" for a generation.