2016 electoral college voting **live commentary thread**

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We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

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We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.

I meant for President. VP is more common. We've now tied 1808 for the most Presidential faithless electors with 6.

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We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.

I meant for President. VP is more common. We've now tied 1808 for the most Presidential faithless electors with 6.

Wikipedia seems to indicate 10 in 1892?

I just see 1 for 1892 here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

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We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.

I meant for President. VP is more common. We've now tied 1808 for the most Presidential faithless electors with 6.

Wikipedia seems to indicate 10 in 1892?

I just see 1 for 1892 here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

See the main article for the 1892 election.

You must be talking about the split states. Well, ME-02 wasn't faithless this election, and it used to be more common for states to not be winner take all. And yes, ND was hilarious for splitting 1-1-1. But none of those were faithless.

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So, Pence gets 305 for VP while Trump gets 304 for President. Is Pence the true winner here?

Interesting. Is this the first time the VP actually wins more EV than the President? Or has it occurred in the past?

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Bernie weighs in:

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Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
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We need to change the electoral college.

I bet he's salty that he didn't get any

I bet he would have if Trump had hit 270 before Washington voted (and the electors had heard). They were trying to get the House to choose Powell.

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Bernie weighs in:

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
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We need to change the electoral college.

How about the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact? Where does that stand?

It's at 165/270 electoral votes, but still hasn't passed in a single Trump state.

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Just think, if Bush had 2 faithless electors in 2000, or just one for Hayes, it would have gone to the House.

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So have we set an all-time record for faithless electors for president?  We've had many more faithless VP electors before, but for the presidential ballot, I think 7 faithless electors is an all-time record.

Yes, for Presidential,  the 7 for 2016 beats the record of  6 in 1808.

For VP, the 6 for 2016 loses to 27 in 1896, 23 in 1836, 32 in 1832, 7 in 1828. And also 18 or 19 in 1796, but that was pre 12th amendment.

Hillary's 5 faithless electors are the 2nd most ever faithless electors for a Presidential candidate. The irony is that the record was 6 Madison electors who voted for a Clinton from New York instead. So I guess Clintons from New York are still up 1 in the faithless elector department.

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This is the first presidential election in the history of the United States in which as many females received electoral votes as males.

President was 3-3 split on the genders, but Vice President was 5-2 in favor of women.

This may have been the first time women or non Christians got electoral votes for President.

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This is the first presidential election in the history of the United States in which as many females received electoral votes as males.

President was 3-3 split on the genders, but Vice President was 5-2 in favor of women.

This may have been the first time women or non Christians got electoral votes for President.

No, President was 5-2 in favor of men. It balances out with the 5-2 female majority for VP.

Right, I made a mistake there.

I wonder if there will ever be 5 women to receive an electoral vote for VP in the same election again?

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I think it's the first time presidential electoral votes went to:

A woman
A Native American
A Jew
Ron Paul!!!11

Yup, it probably is. In 1972, a Jewish woman got a vote for VP, predating Ferraro, Lieberman, and Palin.