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Question: The U.S. military budget should be
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Dramatically reduced
 
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Slightly reduced
 
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Kept the same
 
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Slightly increased
 
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Dramatically increased
 
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Derek
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« on: May 30, 2010, 02:57:06 PM »

Tell the military you're going to cut their pay for their service. Happy Memorial Day to you as well.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 04:11:16 PM »

Tell the military you're going to cut their pay for their service. Happy Memorial Day to you as well.

More money would be saved just telling them to come home entirely.

They don't want to come home otherwise they wouldn't have signed up.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 03:44:23 AM »

Funny how many "fiscal conservatives" out there support bloated defense spending and foreign wars of intervention.


Funny how many "fiscal conservatives" out there want to get rid of central banking, and our federal reserve.

Yes that would be a great idea. Really the only thing this country should worry about in a time of war or debt is military spending. Win the war and then come home and worry about things later. What other things besides military, defense, security, and education do you want to spend money on anyhow?
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 03:44:45 AM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 07:58:10 PM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 03:16:13 AM »

Are your clothes from Sept.10, 2001 as well?
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 11:27:51 PM »

Are your clothes from Sept.10, 2001 as well?

Do you need a trillion dollar army goose stepping around the streets to make you feel safe?

Not on my street but it could do us some good in Compton City.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2010, 11:29:33 PM »

Its like the gun control argument - sure, one 'blames' the guy weilding it, not the gun, but the fact remains if he didn't have the gun his destructiveness would be enormously blunted.

Or one blames gun control for a victim not having a gun in self defense. Sure the murderer fired a gun he knew how to get illegally, but it really wasn't the murderer or the murderer's gun that stopped the victim from defending himself. It was the anti-American gun control law that violated or second amendment.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2010, 11:49:30 PM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy? Cheesy

Me? That would work except for it's too late.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2010, 01:11:09 AM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy? Cheesy

Me? That would work except for it's too late.

I was talking to fezzy. You've made it clear that you do not support a conservative foreign policy.

Are you the same person as Senator Libertas? I support a foreign policy where we have a Federations United or F.U. This would only include nations that had free elections.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 01:55:30 AM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy? Cheesy

It's not so much that I'm non-interventionist as I am not interventionist.  I'm not opposed to the idea of alliances and strong foreign trade relations, but I'm not big on forcing our way on others or using international power to gain more support by force.

Trade relations are compatible with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

The basic principles of a non-interventionist foreign policy are the old Jeffersonian dictum:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

Those are all good ideas but how do we achieve them?
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2010, 02:22:17 AM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy? Cheesy

It's not so much that I'm non-interventionist as I am not interventionist.  I'm not opposed to the idea of alliances and strong foreign trade relations, but I'm not big on forcing our way on others or using international power to gain more support by force.

Trade relations are compatible with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

The basic principles of a non-interventionist foreign policy are the old Jeffersonian dictum:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

Those are all good ideas but how do we achieve them?
End the wars, bring the troops home (from all 130 countries they're stationed in), end foreign aid, abolish tariffs, abolish managed trade agreements like NAFTA, end sanctions and embargoes like that against Cuba, etc, etc.

That sounds like isolationism.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 07:51:42 PM »

If anything it needs to be increased each year until Al-Qaida is no more!
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2010, 08:03:38 PM »

If anything it needs to be increased each year until Al-Qaida is no more!

If you want to get rid of al-Qaeda, cutting the CIA budget is the way to go.

How so?
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 12:42:58 PM »

If anything it needs to be increased each year until Al-Qaida is no more!

If you want to get rid of al-Qaeda, cutting the CIA budget is the way to go.

How so?

The CIA wouldn't be able to afford maintaining al-Qaeda.

We can't cut defense spending for Al-Qaida reasons too. that's right
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