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Question: Will America declare war on Russia?
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Shaula🏳️‍⚧️
The Pieman
Junior Chimp
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Australia


« on: February 25, 2022, 07:32:06 AM »

"Literally everything that ever happens is Hitler purely because I have no real argument."

I know Godwin's Law and all, but this scenario is similar enough to actually warrant a comparison.

No, saying this is similar dismisses what happened during the Holocaust as typical wartime behavior.

The idea isn't to equivocate the Holocaust with what Putin is doing - the idea is to stop it from getting to that point.  

I don't think that it "dismisses" what happened in the Holocaust to be cautious in these sorts of instances. In fact, I think trying to paint the Holocaust as some once-in-a-millennium anomaly is more dismissive of the conditions that led to it in the first place.

Nobody thought that we'd see a world war with 6 million dead Jews when Poland was invaded in 1939.

The US knew exactly what Hitler's intentions were and continually turned away Jews who were trying to escape despite knowing this. We are doing more here with the sanctions than we ever did then--which was sending people back to their deaths--so continuing to make this equation to the current situation shows ignorance at the very least.

There's no shame in admitting that what's going on there is wrong and unjustified, while also acknowledging that it isn't Literally Hitler Again and that intervention will do nothing but worsen the situation for all involved.
Letting refugees in the country is a bad idea and always was. No matter the context. American jobs for americans.
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Shaula🏳️‍⚧️
The Pieman
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,373
Australia


« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2022, 03:05:03 AM »

"Literally everything that ever happens is Hitler purely because I have no real argument."

I know Godwin's Law and all, but this scenario is similar enough to actually warrant a comparison.

No, saying this is similar dismisses what happened during the Holocaust as typical wartime behavior.

The idea isn't to equivocate the Holocaust with what Putin is doing - the idea is to stop it from getting to that point.  

I don't think that it "dismisses" what happened in the Holocaust to be cautious in these sorts of instances. In fact, I think trying to paint the Holocaust as some once-in-a-millennium anomaly is more dismissive of the conditions that led to it in the first place.

Nobody thought that we'd see a world war with 6 million dead Jews when Poland was invaded in 1939.

The US knew exactly what Hitler's intentions were and continually turned away Jews who were trying to escape despite knowing this. We are doing more here with the sanctions than we ever did then--which was sending people back to their deaths--so continuing to make this equation to the current situation shows ignorance at the very least.

There's no shame in admitting that what's going on there is wrong and unjustified, while also acknowledging that it isn't Literally Hitler Again and that intervention will do nothing but worsen the situation for all involved.
Letting refugees in the country is a bad idea and always was. No matter the context. American jobs for americans.
Are you seriously suggesting we were right to refuse to take in Jewish refugees fleeing nazi germany?
Yes.
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