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Question: Who gains who loses?
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Gingrich (Up)
 
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Gingrich (Down)
 
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Perry (Up)
 
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Santorum (Up)
 
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Santorum (Down)
 
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Huntsman (Up)
 
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Huntsman (Down)
 
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Author Topic: Post-Debate Reaction  (Read 5216 times)
Oakvale
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« on: November 10, 2011, 10:52:55 AM »

So, yeah, I just saw the "Oops" moment. Wow, I genuinely felt sorry for Perry. It's becoming more and more obvious every day why he didn't want to run for President for so long.
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Oakvale
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 12:53:05 PM »

I didn't watch. What did Perry do that everybody agrees was so catastrophic? I've never seen so much unanimous agreement on anything on here. Ever.

EDIT: read on CNN. Ok.the man had a brain fart. It happens. I'm the last person who wants to defend Perry, but if the GOP is choosing that over actual policy positions (and I think Perry's suck), to determine who their candidate is, they're even bigger fools than I thought all along.

It was really, really embarassing though. I felt sorry for him. Watch it on Youtube or something.
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Oakvale
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 01:57:06 PM »

And a Perry collapse could be DISASTEROUS for Romney. More than anything, he needs the conservative vote to be split. Iif Perry's support all goes to one consensus "conservative" candidate, Mittens is toast.

It seems that the bulk of the Dems around here really (along with a few LDS loathing Pubbies) really don't want Mittens to be nominated doesn't it? Smiley

Well, uh, yeah, because poll after poll shows he's the only nominee who could beat Obama. Tongue
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Oakvale
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 02:25:19 PM »

Each and every Pubbie I chat with in real life (including ex governor Pete Wilson with whom I spoke for a few minutes a couple of nights ago) wants to nominate the strongest opponent to Obama. Granted, it is a non random sample. Smiley

I think that's probably true, but I also think there's a non-negligible faction of the primary vote (the same which is current doggedly sticking by Cain) that are convinced that a 'true conservative' or whatever will also be, inherently, the strongest opponent to Obama.

Red State (?) had a post to the effect that a Romney nomination will be a disaster for the Republicans because moderates don't win elections or some bullsh**t.
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Oakvale
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 02:32:40 PM »

Each and every Pubbie I chat with in real life (including ex governor Pete Wilson with whom I spoke for a few minutes a couple of nights ago) wants to nominate the strongest opponent to Obama. Granted, it is a non random sample. Smiley

I think that's probably true, but I also think there's a non-negligible faction of the primary vote (the same which is current doggedly sticking by Cain) that are convinced that a 'true conservative' or whatever will also be, inherently, the strongest opponent to Obama.

Red State (?) had a post to the effect that a Romney nomination will be a disaster for the Republicans because moderates don't win elections or some bullsh**t.

Without moderates like Torie on board the Pubbie will lose to Obama - period. Isn't that obvious?

To me, and to anyone reasonable, sure. To the "Anyone But Romney" crowd, apparently not. Or they just don't care, but I think it's the former.
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