Chilean Elections and General Discussion. Municipal and Regional elections, October 27th, 2024 (user search)
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Question: Which list would you vote for?
#1
Unidad para Chile (AD-PS-PL, left-wing)
 
#2
Todo por Chile (PPD-DC-PR, centre-left)
 
#3
Partido de la Gente (populism)
 
#4
Chile Seguro (Chile Vamos, right-wing)
 
#5
Partido Republicano (Far right)
 
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Total Voters: 25

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oldtimer
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« on: May 08, 2023, 07:38:51 AM »

And UpCh got the Tarapacá seat, there won't be more changes. REP 22, UpCh 17, ChS 11 and one Indigenous representative.

No 2/3 majority then.

The threshold to approve articles is 3/5ths this time, so the right doesn't really need to reach 2/3rds. The left is still without effective veto power under those numbers.
Let me get this straight:

The Left wanted to change the constitution.

The voters didn't.

The Left insisted.

The voters voted No.

The Left still insisted.

The voters voted for the Right to get rid of the Left.

The Right now gets to write the new constitution, against the Left which insisted on changing it against the will of the people.

Lesson, never anger the population by trying to impose things they don't want.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2023, 06:25:23 PM »

Do you think that the new RW majority will try to put in more right-wing clauses in the constitution than in the current one.

Banning gay marriage?
Bringing back the old binomial vote system?
Something about immigration (Chile has issues with illegal migration from Venezuela and Haiti)?
A flat tax?
If they are smart, they will do nothing but block any changes, the more they do the greater the risk they get voted out like the last lot.

The public there clearly voted them to block a change in the constitution.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2023, 10:54:43 AM »
« Edited: December 18, 2023, 10:58:53 AM by oldtimer »

So the results of the first referendum, the first constituyente, the second referendum, the second constituyente and now the third referendum are all a decisive "get fxcked" Tongue

I still don’t understand why voters need to be asked THREE TIMES to pass one change of constitution though. Two times was enough, the third is redundant and makes no sense.

First vote - You say whether you want a constitutional change (yes/no) - ok, makes sense

Second vote - You pick the representatives who will write said constitution in case yes wins - ok, makes sense

What’s the point of a third vote to simply reaffirm what’s already implicit through both the first two votes?Huh That vote is what it creates this never-ending loop where if voters refuse the constitution the person they picked chose, at least one referendum decision will eventually have to be disrespected.

I suppose the excess of democracy is to make sure whatever is written is the most consensual as possible? In that case just come up with a bland generic small text that all sides can be ok with and get this over with.

It's pigheadedness.

It's clear Chilean voters don't want any change.
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