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Question: The U.S. military budget should be
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Dramatically reduced
 
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Slightly reduced
 
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Kept the same
 
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Slightly increased
 
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Dramatically increased
 
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 30, 2010, 03:46:59 PM »

Funny how many "fiscal conservatives" out there support bloated defense spending and foreign wars of intervention.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 04:40:41 PM »
« Edited: May 30, 2010, 04:43:09 PM by Governor Morgan Brykein »

Tell the military you're going to cut their pay for their service. Happy Memorial Day to you as well.

More money would be saved just telling them to come home entirely.

They don't want to come home otherwise they wouldn't have signed up.

Out of all the candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, Ron Paul received the most donations from military personnel.  And he's the only candidate who opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 04:55:20 PM »

Tell the military you're going to cut their pay for their service. Happy Memorial Day to you as well.

More money would be saved just telling them to come home entirely.

They don't want to come home otherwise they wouldn't have signed up.

Out of all the candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, Ron Paul received the most donations from military personnel.  And he's the only candidate who opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The weekly standard thinks other wise, and secondly I have seen Ron Paul's donation numbers debunked before. In any event this thread is not about Ron Paul.

I know that.  I just find what Derek said to be absurd.  Many of these people who go over there were lied to about money for college and other B.S.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 11:50:40 PM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy? Cheesy

I was about to sort-of ask the same question.  Haven't heard him use the word "interventionist" before.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 02:49:36 AM »

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy? Cheesy

It's not so much that I'm non-interventionist as I am not interventionist.  I'm not opposed to the idea of alliances and strong foreign trade relations, but I'm not big on forcing our way on others or using international power to gain more support by force.

Trade relations are compatible with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

The basic principles of a non-interventionist foreign policy are the old Jeffersonian dictum:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

Those are all good ideas but how do we achieve them?
End the wars, bring the troops home (from all 130 countries they're stationed in), end foreign aid, abolish tariffs, abolish managed trade agreements like NAFTA, end sanctions and embargoes like that against Cuba, etc, etc.

That sounds like isolationism.

It sounds like making the United States an equal part of the community of nations, and not a nation atop a pedestal, arrogant and hated by billions.
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