The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

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Thankfully most black people rejected him. Even those that do recognize Kwanzaa aren't rejecting Christmas or Jesus Christ.

The path to love and freedom is not through Maulana Karenga. It is through Jesus Christ.

Rejecting the vile character behind the most reprehensible and reactionary organization in the world would be a step up for all of humanity. Christianity and Jesus are a subset of adult fairy tales, which has indoctrinated innocent children for centuries and is responsible for the majority of the ill effects of mankind. All religions by definition of blind faith should be categorized as a mental disorder. No rational person in their right mind should feel discourage to make a criticism of he moment that is holding Homo sapiens back from potential enlightenment.

 Yeah, there are atheist rant posts That just begged For an old tip of the Fedora, And then there's this.

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A Martin Luther king holiday themed extravaganza here.

King wasn’t a leftist, lmao. Most leftists themselves define left-wing politics as politics which prioritizes equality over all things. King’s ideology prioritized the salvation of all human beings above all things, making him a right-winger, by definition. The fact that he also had some ideas that in the context of 1960s USA (like racial equality) could be viewed as left-wing don’t take away from his actual underlying dominant ideology.

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Oh, I almost the equally ignorant post he led off with:

Leftists have hated religion since day 1.

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Let’s see if I can draw an analogy here:

Otto von Bismarck designed and implemented the most egalitarian social safety net that the world up until that time had ever seen. Given how left-wing politics is based on having equality as the most important goal within a system, this would make Bismarck seemingly a left-winger. Yet all historians correctly identify Bismarck as being a staunch right-winger. Why? Because Bismarck wasn’t really concerned with equality- he was concerned with strengthening Germany and it’s people. The fact that equality was a means to this end does not really matter- it’s the underlying goals that count.

King absolutely strove for racial and economic equality. So why isn’t he a left-winger then? Because the underlying goal wasn’t equality- it was ending the divisions between human beings so all could become unified with Christ, just as God intended. That is ultimately a right-wing goal (which is why theocracy is always correctly placed on the right-end of the political spectrum).

 That entire thread was one long self own on reckoning's part.

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Jesus Christ, that guy seems to ignore the existence of white supremacists in his country. They are crazy, yeah

For the love of god, how can you possibly say that someone who said this is a "fantastic guy"?

China can be predominantly Chinese and Nigeria can be predominantly Nigerian, why can't the U.S. - which was built up by Europeans - be predominantly European?

Like I said he has a very European view on that issue and his view would not be like that if he was American .

Also even if you think those views make him crazy, tell me do you not have a single friend or family member whose views you wouldnt consider crazy. If you dont then you are the one who is living in a bubble

No I was clear talking in the context of DavidB there

DavidB is indeed European, but his brand of white nationalism has equivalents on the other side of the Atlantic. There is no American exceptionalism and context does not justify moral relativism.

 If DavidB was American,  he could have been a Trump supporter who stands for a White America.  No big difference with the European guy, actually

DavidB is not a white nationalist , its just his concept on what makes a nation a nation is different due to being European

Let me tell you that Europeans are mostly white. US supremacists and European far-right radicals share a common belief a white and christian civilization besieged by immigrants and minorities.

The views of DavidB on nation and ethnicity are not shared by all Europeans. I think that theory of the Great Replacement is very popular among certain people in the right like DavidB himself,  not by the European mainstream. For sure US supremacists believe in the Great Replacement. In the end, his brand of nationalism aims to preserve the "European Civilization" on both sides of the Atlantic. I won't delve into the personal contradictions of that poster here, just point that it's ignorant to ignore the transatlantic connections existing between far-right radicals

DavidB has been a good Atlas buddy of mine since 2015 and I can tell you he isnt what you think he is.

Keep in mind polls have shown European Conservatives generally are to the right of American conservatives on immigration

 Blatant racism is cool as long as it's by a buddy!

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Good.

Affirmative action is the greatest example of modern-day systemic racism.

Systemic racism? Talk about white fragility.

Fragility is when people are upset about being discriminated against, apparently.

Oh my goodness, white people have every advantage imaginable. Universities making a small effort to correct for this imbalance isn't discrimination. Mediocre white people need to realize that maybe they aren't qualified instead of crying about affirmative action.

Asians are white?

White adjacent, yes.

 I think he was joking. Or at least I hope so.

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Let me tell you that Europeans are mostly white. US supremacists and European far-right radicals share a common belief a white and christian civilization besieged by immigrants and minorities.

The views of DavidB on nation and ethnicity are not shared by all Europeans. I think that theory of the Great Replacement is very popular among certain people in the right like DavidB himself,  not by the European mainstream. For sure US supremacists believe in the Great Replacement. In the end, his brand of nationalism aims to preserve the "European Civilization" on both sides of the Atlantic. I won't delve into the personal contradictions of that poster here, just point that it's ignorant to ignore the transatlantic connections existing between far-right radicals

Is this coming from a fantasy in your mind?

DavidB is one of the smartest posters here.

This is actually a completely valid and accurate critique of DavidB's stated views. "Intelligence " has nothing to do with it.

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I thought most of Atlas was against underage gender reassignment surgery.

Underage gender reassignment surgery should not be legal.

The order includes puberty blockers and testosterone and estrogen, not just gender reassignment surgery. You would know that if you bothered to read it.

Which should also be banned for minors. Those drugs are extremely harmful and can cause severe side affects on children.

Such ‘treatment’ should never be used on a developing child for any reason whatsoever.

Underage gender reassignment surgery should not be legal.

The order includes puberty blockers and testosterone and estrogen, not just gender reassignment surgery. You would know that if you bothered to read it.

Which should also be banned for minors. Those drugs are extremely harmful and can cause severe side affects on children.

Such ‘treatment’ should never be used on a developing child for any reason whatsoever.

Denying trans kids puberty blockers and the appropriate hormones is child abuse.

You are advocating for child abuse.

Do you even realize you would have been seen as a madman just 15 years ago ? Humanity did without puberty blockers for thousands of years.

Unless they are being used for growth deficiencies and other severe medical conditions, puberty blockers are one of the most horrific things I can imagine, a crime against biology and nature itself. We are lost as a society.

People with a penis believing they are women and people with a vagina believing they are men have always existed. I'll give you that, there have always been crazy people after all. However, we have never seen nearly as much sex change operations as today.

 Yeah, that entire thread is already chock full of just downright  Ugliness

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While I used to be able to sympathize with some of Putin's views on certain issues, now I just can't. Putin is 100% without a doubt a war criminal now and I do not sympathize with war criminals! I still don't support US troops in Ukraine and hope that both sides can find a solution rather quickly, which sadly looks pretty unlikely at this point.

Just thought I'd give my two cents.

 I am trying to restrain myself from hyperbole in asking this, but on what possible issues could one agree with Vladimir Putin on? Serious question.

Bringing stability to your country and raising it up from being an Oligarch dominated disaster zone like Russia in the 1990s or the United States.

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"Literally everything that ever happens is Hitler purely because I have no real argument."

I know Godwin's Law and all, but this scenario is similar enough to actually warrant a comparison.

No, saying this is similar dismisses what happened during the Holocaust as typical wartime behavior.

The idea isn't to equivocate the Holocaust with what Putin is doing - the idea is to stop it from getting to that point.  

I don't think that it "dismisses" what happened in the Holocaust to be cautious in these sorts of instances. In fact, I think trying to paint the Holocaust as some once-in-a-millennium anomaly is more dismissive of the conditions that led to it in the first place.

Nobody thought that we'd see a world war with 6 million dead Jews when Poland was invaded in 1939.

The US knew exactly what Hitler's intentions were and continually turned away Jews who were trying to escape despite knowing this. We are doing more here with the sanctions than we ever did then--which was sending people back to their deaths--so continuing to make this equation to the current situation shows ignorance at the very least.

There's no shame in admitting that what's going on there is wrong and unjustified, while also acknowledging that it isn't Literally Hitler Again and that intervention will do nothing but worsen the situation for all involved.

Letting refugees in the country is a bad idea and always was. No matter the context. American jobs for americans.

Are you seriously suggesting we were right to refuse to take in Jewish refugees fleeing nazi germany?

Yes.

JFC.

" Difference of opinion "be d*****. This is outright evil.

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Oh look, the drive-by hater once again found a place for himself in my alerts. And it's for something I'm not 100% sure of defending anymore.
I needed a laugh. You'd find it hard to find a heart colder.
Guess he was salty.

 To whom are you referring please?

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Oh look, the drive-by hater once again found a place for himself in my alerts. And it's for something I'm not 100% sure of defending anymore.
I needed a laugh. You'd find it hard to find a heart colder.
Guess he was salty.

 To whom are you referring please?

Sol.
We have a strong mutual dislike. I just don't advertise it because I try to avoid insulting him. He makes it hard sometimes.
P.S. His obsession with me comes off as quite pathetic. A shame, because I like his postings.

 In fairness, that was a really s***** post of yours. Frankly you're entire both sidesing this invasion been quite Indefensible.

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Defamation/libel/slander laws should not exist, nor should copyright. They are infringements on free speech.

Pulling anything from pieman is unfairly low-hanging fruit. Posters like him are why the ignore button was created

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Jesus Christ, just say "people". "Birthing bodies" appeals to no one.

Or just say women.

Dude. My opinion on fgthn's views 99% of the time border on legendary. But there is nothing whatsoever wrong about this post. Quite the opposite

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     It baffles me that "birthing bodies" is actually becoming a thing.

Don't worry, it's really not (thank God).

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Did not expect Portnoy of all people to say this, but hey.

Tbh he's just paranoid about accidentally impregnating a girl and having to pay child support.

But hey, if this kind of thing gets people on our side - I won't complain.

That's pretty much the only reason "pro-choice" men exist, whether they admit it or not.

Beat me to it.

That one is an absolute keeper. If this rain we're to have a worst of the worst the VIP section, that would be among the first in line.

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Republicans have been openly campaigning on reversing Roe for 40+ years

And they've been openly campaigning on reversing Obergefell for 7 years.

No they have not . Putting stuff on a virtue signaling  platform is different than actively campaigning on stuff.

No, it's not different.

Why would they include it on their platform if they didn't actually want to do it?

Parties don’t implement 90% of their platform

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Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

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Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

I was comparing the act of the leaker here not the individual protesters to the rioters . The leaker is clearly inciting violence and needs to be arrested

"00110 Exactly the same.  1100011 Exactly the same."

Kindly cite one scrap of evidence that the leaker intended for anything more than protests outside the justices homes rather than violence as you are repeatedly and hysterically stating without basis.

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In response to a post saying that Britain’s government was never in serious threat during WW2:

Pseudohistorical nonsense. An invasion was planned in great and exhaustive detail and would have occurred had the Battle of Britain not ended in decisive defeat. Why don't you f**ck off and read some actual history for a change?

The idea that Operation Sea Lion had a >0% chance of succeeding is probably the dumbest historical take I’ve ever seen on this whole site, and certainly the dumbest about WW2.

Once again Reckoning proves himself to be one of the lowest quality and overall dimmest posters on the site. A complete embarrassment if he had any self-realization capacity whatsoever

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Every time TheReckoning opens his mouth about history he makes himself sound like an idiot. Sometimes its harmless stupidity, sometimes its dangerous pseudo-history, and sometimes its insulting garbage like these insults against the Danish people, and insult to the thousands of Danes who died fighting the Nazis and at the hand of Nazi oppression. Horrible, and there should be sanctions for this. And somehow this came up in a thread about murdered children.

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TheReckoning, who apparently "is not a fascist," threw a fit about his giant sig portrait of Hitler being removed.

So portrait of someone who commits genocide against Ukraines (Stalin): Fine

Portrait of someone who commits genocide against ethnic minorities in Cambodia (Pol Pot): Fine

Portrait of someone who commits genocide against Jews (Hitler): Gets taken down in 10 minutes

Tell me again how moderation rules aren’t completely arbitrary.

Didn't even realize he was already here embarrassing himself with a different discussion of WWII until after I started posting. How fitting.

What I’m annoyed about isn’t the fact that I can’t have Hitler in my signature. I was going to take it down within a day or two regardless of whether or not there was mod action.

How......reassuring.

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TheReckoning, who apparently "is not a fascist," threw a fit about his giant sig portrait of Hitler being removed.

So portrait of someone who commits genocide against Ukraines (Stalin): Fine

Portrait of someone who commits genocide against ethnic minorities in Cambodia (Pol Pot): Fine

Portrait of someone who commits genocide against Jews (Hitler): Gets taken down in 10 minutes

Tell me again how moderation rules aren’t completely arbitrary.

Didn't even realize he was already here embarrassing himself with a different discussion of WWII until after I started posting. How fitting.

Watching the Reckoning try to debate oh, well.... Anything, but in this case particularly Al regarding nearly any aspect of English History reminds me of this sketch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-QOPmJuzU

The Reckoning, we encourage you as our loyal subject please stay down

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TheReckoning, who apparently "is not a fascist," threw a fit about his giant sig portrait of Hitler being removed.

So portrait of someone who commits genocide against Ukraines (Stalin): Fine

Portrait of someone who commits genocide against ethnic minorities in Cambodia (Pol Pot): Fine

Portrait of someone who commits genocide against Jews (Hitler): Gets taken down in 10 minutes

Tell me again how moderation rules aren’t completely arbitrary.

Didn't even realize he was already here embarrassing himself with a different discussion of WWII until after I started posting. How fitting.

What I’m annoyed about isn’t the fact that I can’t have Hitler in my signature. I was going to take it down within a day or two regardless of whether or not there was mod action.

How......reassuring.

If you seriously think I’m a Nazi because of my signature, then I must also be a Stalinist as well, and a Khmer Rouge supporter-because the most prominent of those were also displayed in my signature.

How additionally......reassuring.

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Section 1: The US Senate shall be abolished, and the US House shall be the sole legislative chamber in the Country.
Section 2: States shall be required to set up an independent citizens commission for the purposes of drawing Congressional Districts. Said commissions may not use any kind of partisan data when constructing the maps.
Section 3: The US House, by a simple majority vote, shall be in charge of the process of advice and consent previously given to the US Senate.
Section 4: The US House shall have the power to impeach federal officials by a simple majority vote, and to convict them with a majority of two thirds following an impeachment trial.
Section 5: Legislation shall become law upon passage by the US House, followed by a signature from the President. The President may also veto legislation, in which case the House may override the veto with a majority of two thirds. Ratification of treaties shall be treated as regular legislation.
Section 6: All judiciary offices whose officeholders US Senate confirmation occured with Senators voting to confirm them reperesenting a minority of the nations population according to the contemporary preceding decennial census shall be immediately considered vacated upon ratification of this amendment.
Section 7: The Electoral College shall be abolished, and the President shall be elected by a national popular vote.
Section 8: Elections for the President and the US House shall be conducted using ranked choice voting.

Really uncertain as to why this is so absurd or ignorant. There's a reasonable argument to be made that given the Senate's grossly undemocratic lean, plus the fact that divisions from state-to-state are not nearly as dramatic in 2022 as in 1789 so as to Warrant still giving California and Wyoming to Senators a piece, or Texas in Vermont for that matter,.

If you believe this position to be so ignorant or absurd, perhaps the best route would be to present an argument against it in the thread where this post was made, rather than merely dumping it in this thread, as I respectfully submit it is nowhere near so tangibly and obviously absurd a proposition.