Super Tuesday Results Thread

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CNN calls North Carolina for Biden.

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CNN calls Tennessee for Biden

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Texas exits point to narrow Biden victory.

Biden 34.12
Sanders 33.96
Bloomberg ~13
Warren ~10.5

But does that incorporate early vote? If that's an accurate indicator of election day vote, Sanders probably wins Texas.

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I’m willing to admit that if Biden wins Maine & Minnesota; this is a lean Biden primary.

Biden better not pull a Hillary and choose a Tim Kaine as VP; young progressives will stay home.

I'd be shocked if he does. My first bet would be Kamala Harris.

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I’m willing to admit that if Biden wins Maine & Minnesota; this is a lean Biden primary.

Biden better not pull a Hillary and choose a Tim Kaine as VP; young progressives will stay home.

I'd be shocked if he does. My first bet would be Kamala Harris.

1.  Tim Kaine was a good pick.
2.  Kamala Harris would be a good pick too.

How on Earth was Tim Kaine a good choice? He offered no tangible attraction or constituency to the ticket. He kind of flopped in hiz1 debate against Mike Pence who's hardly an oratorical genius, and and was primarily remember as simply being an inoffensive blandness.

I think it's rather telling that in a year we're literally everybody and their cousin imaginable in the Democratic Party tried running for the nomination, the Vice Presidential nominee from only 4 years ago not only didn't even try, he was never seriously discussed as a candidate.

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Sanders only got 62% of the vote in Burlington, VT.

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CBS calls Arkansas and Oklahoma both for Biden.

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I am a Biden supporter, though not a fanatic. However watching him speak tonight reminds me he's one of those politicians who confuses volume for passion.

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Animal rights protest at Biden speech. Got pulled off stage, not a great look.

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VIOLENT SANDERS SUPPORTERS, GO FIGURE!

If you're talking about the folks who interrupted his speech, I think there's some sort of animal rights luniz. They may or may not support Sanders, if anything I would guess they're green voters, but they weren't doing this on behalf of Sanders.

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one reason Biden might be doing better than Hillary is because the Democratic Party has literally expanded under Trump.  A lot of ex Republicans/moderates are now voting Democrat.

Mama if one checks closely, Joe Biden is not Hillary Clinton. Hillary was fundamentally distrusted and even disliked by a majority of Americans. Biden just simply does not have remotely the same level of dislike outside of die-hard Republicans and conservatives

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Hey Atlas progressives, as an uncompromising neoliberal and establishment shill, do not lose all hope. Tonight has shown that America has overwhelmingly rejected Bernie Sanders as a human nobody likes, and that Ameroca is not willing to accept uncompromising, divisive, socialist radicals woth a savior mentality. Next time instead of going for a purist star, go for a progressive (not socialist) workhorse with strong policy as well as strong rhetoric. There are plenty of choices. But you will lose if you go as left as Sanders (focus on builind a winning coalition around a few key issues) and embrace the unifying Buttigeig approach to politics instead of the losing Sanders strategy. Best wishes, even though I hope you keep losing.

You're just proving my point. In your ideal Democratic Party, there are no progressives.

Watch Biden's speech that he just gave. He's a progressive bona fide. And has been for 40 years. He's just not a revolutionary.

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So I’m going to admit as a Bernie supporter that tonight is sobering; all I’m going to say is that while I accept Biden is looking inevitable, he ignores the millions of progressives who voted for Sanders & Warren (as Hillary did) at his own peril. If he treats us like Hillary did, he deserves to lose. Biden must choose a strong progressive VP.

Kamala?

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Bernie supporters and Biden supporters: please be nice to one another. We all need each other to beat the fascist prick in the White House.

Thanks!

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So I’m going to admit as a Bernie supporter that tonight is sobering; all I’m going to say is that while I accept Biden is looking inevitable, he ignores the millions of progressives who voted for Sanders & Warren (as Hillary did) at his own peril. If he treats us like Hillary did, he deserves to lose. Biden must choose a strong progressive VP.

Kamala?

Hahahaha good one, tell another

Okay, who would you prefer? Nina Turner?

BTW, just for fun and kicks, Google Kamala Harris liberal voting record. The first link that comes up is from Progressive punch. They ranker as having the second most Progressive lifetime voting record in the Senate.

But why would we go for progressivism for something so passe as, you know voting on legislation, when we can have Revolution ^TM

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https://twitter.com/aaltman82/status/1235043712008220673

They. Switched. On. HIM!

It won’t matter when it’s in the inevitable GOP attack ad about Biden’s “mental decline” come November

Yes, I'm sure that there are scads of undecided voters whom will say to themselves, gee, I wasn't sure about who to vote for, but after hearing about Joe Biden tripping over his own words and shooting from the hip, I have only now decided to support Donald Trump.

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In Faulkner county Arkansas, the vote is currently tied 177 for Bloomberg and...

177 for Marianne Williamson.

Either there's some cult religious retreat there like that place in Iowa, or that has to be a typo.

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Joe just called his wife his sister ROFLLLLL hahahaha

We’re so screwed lmao

(Yawn) truly incidents like this will surely lead many undecided voters to be drawn to the laser like focus and oratorical Elegance of Donald Trump

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I have to say I'm pissed off more than anything. Biden didn't win this himself. Some last minute shady deals between Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Beto, and the entirety of the media did.

Spearheaded by Obama.


If the election were held tomorrow, I wouldn't stay home though.



I'd vote for Trump

literally f**k the DNC, f**k the media.  f**k the whole party apparatus.  Warren?  I hope she gets primaried up her ass and eats sh**t.

Holding onto my Bernie shares on Predictit though in case Biden catches COVID-19.

Sanders would sadly shake his head at your pigheaded foolishness.

It's easy to want to burn something down. It's infinitely harder to build something up.

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I have to say I'm pissed off more than anything. Biden didn't win this himself. Some last minute shady deals between Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Beto, and the entirety of the media did.

Spearheaded by Obama.


If the election were held tomorrow, I wouldn't stay home though.



I'd vote for Trump

literally f**k the DNC, f**k the media.  f**k the whole party apparatus.  Warren?  I hope she gets primaried up her ass and eats sh**t.

Holding onto my Bernie shares on Predictit though in case Biden catches COVID-19.

And f*** the voters who largely rejected Sanders. Stupid voters!

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I can’t believe the DNC was able to force millions to vote again Bernie Sanders. Truly amazing the power and reach they have!

Too bad your party couldn’t do the same and now we’re stuck with Trump. Also too bad we’re about to nominate another Hillary. Oh well.

Except, and this may have some slight influence on the election, Joe Biden does not have more remotely near the same levels of disapproval, distrust, and visceral dislike that most Americans felt for Clinton. He's actually much stronger than the average candid in that respect, including Sanders.

Joe Biden would have won the 2016 election. Hell, Hillary Clinton using a non completely brain-dead campaign strategy of ignoring Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin almost entirely in favor of places like Texas and New Orleans, could have been would have won Electoral College, having beaten Trump by millions of votes.

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Seeing some of the Bernie meltdown posts here tonight remind me why it's understandable for some to not get behind him when they're jabbed for not being some sort of purist.

He campaigns on "us" not "me" and "expanding his coalition" yet some of his supporters literally make it about him and only him. He says he's going to bring new people in who don't typically turn out yet he hasn't proven it yet. And when he doesn't his vocal supporters cry conspiracy whenever it feels convenient. You can't truly expand your coalition by making everything black and white.

As I posted in Atlas after Dark a little while earlier. Threads like this remind me why I like Sanders much more than many of his supporters. Though I really liked his speech and he made out of a good compelling argument as to why he would be a better candidate than Biden. Though honestly most are all right. The only ones that truly pissed me off or the ones that say they would not support Biden in November because their heart was broken. Hey, every single Democrat supporting Biden - - not the few Republicans who do so hyphen hyphen are pretty much without exception committed to voting for Bernie if he's the nominee. Hell, i'll campaign my ass off as much as I can for him to get Trump thrown out. But Tee's me off that it seems there is a much much stronger element of Bernie voters who are ready to pick up their ball and go home for four more years of trump rather than accepting a candidate who is pro-union, pro education spending, Pro DREAM Act, Pro Paris Accord, Pro public auction, will nominate and pass Progressive justices the Judiciary, pro-choice, etc etc etc

LOL! At the risk of momentarily hijacking This Thread, did any other Biden supporters get band from aad by hockey dude tonight? I just posted the above in my last two posts, including the complement of Sanders speech, and a certain hockey dude mod just banned me because I suggested that Bernie Sanders wasn't the best candidate in the race. LOL LOL! This from the notoriously we never ban people because we genuinely believe in free speech moderator who liked posts just the other day calling Vosem, and I quote, subhuman. Apparently that's acceptable, but don't you dare criticize Bernie! Hell, even inks wouldn't do something like.

LOL poor wittle hockey dude. I would have never guessed that inside he was such a fragile Little Snowflake.

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Hell, Hillary Clinton using a non completely brain-dead campaign strategy of ignoring Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin almost entirely in favor of places like Texas and New Orleans, could have been would have won Electoral College, having beaten Trump by millions of votes.

It only looks that way in hindsight. She was well ahead in all those states until the last week. (Which also suggests campaigning in them might not have done anything.)

If she campaigned in them, and not Texas, and still lost, but was within a few points in Texas, you'd probably criticize her for not campaigning there.

Um, no? If she won the election I wouldn't give a damn if she lost Texas, because I'm not an idiot.

When someone runs a campaign like that and whines up losing by a fraction of a percentage point in three crucial states that till the election despite winning the popular vote by 3 million, one can genuinely place a lot of that defeat on Tactical stupidity. Add in the fact that this was Hillary Clinton, who the right-wing media has beat up on for a quarter-century to the point that a solid majority of Americans disliked her - - and who her own lack of credit, was always 8 wanting to have it both ways speaking out of both sides of her mouth politician - - which we just don't have to deal with in terms of Biden.

Just because they're both Democrats were prominent in the 90s, doesn't mean that the similarities don't also in there. Oh, and just a thought that maybe Bernie call for fundamental restructuring of the American economy might not sell as well where 60% of Americans are satisfied with the economy's direction, as opposed to only 36% in 2016?

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For those of you who don't think Biden represents where the Democratic Party is right now, and he's from a different time, etc.  Think of it this way.  Trump is a huge problem.  We need to get rid of him immediately.  Biden is a temporary solution.  There is a lot of time for a next generation to take the reigns but right now we need Trump gone before he does more damage.

Succinct and excellent post.

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Hell, Hillary Clinton using a non completely brain-dead campaign strategy of ignoring Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin almost entirely in favor of places like Texas and New Orleans, could have been would have won Electoral College, having beaten Trump by millions of votes.

It only looks that way in hindsight. She was well ahead in all those states until the last week. (Which also suggests campaigning in them might not have done anything.)

If she campaigned in them, and not Texas, and still lost, but was within a few points in Texas, you'd probably criticize her for not campaigning there.

Um, no? If she won the election I wouldn't give a damn if she lost Texas, because I'm not an idiot.

No if she lost the election.

When someone runs a campaign like that and whines up losing by a fraction of a percentage point in three crucial states that till the election despite winning the popular vote by 3 million, one can genuinely place a lot of that defeat on Tactical stupidity.

Yeah maybe. But none of us knows what would have happened if she shifted resources to those states. Maybe she loses Colorado and Virginia instead. 538 had Trump pretty consistently with a ~30% chance to win in the last month, well above Romney & McCain. No matter how it happened, there'd be room for criticism.

One. Of course I wouldn't be pissed. He no conceivable Universe in 2016 does Clinton carry Texas while losing any role of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Quit making up ridiculous strawman to support your argument.

Secondly, again, quit strawmanning. She neglected to campaign in 3 states which, despite having not having gone Republican since the 80s, we're almost always close in presidential elections. Choosing the campaign in Texas for bragging rights and run ads in New Orleans to run up the popular vote majority because reasons, and a whole host of other similarly brain dead tactical decisions blue what was one of the closest elections in modern history. Absolutely can losing the Electoral College by 80,000 votes split over 3 large states be attributable to grade a campaign Mount practice.

Plus again. I submit most people who've had reservations about did so not because she didn't share Sanders plan for Medicare for all Universal free college education, etc etc, but because she was Hillary freaking. Can you seriously address the relative approval and disapproval ratings 4 Hillary versus Biden and claim they're basically the same candidate?