Alabama Megathread 4: A New Hope

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And thus, my point is proven.

You honestly believe that this is a productive form of political discourse to shout pedophile loud enough and long enough. That is a problem.

What you and many others here are showing that you aren't amenable to reason in any way shape or form. I was surprised to find the blasts of hate towards Moore, but perhaps I shouldn't be given what his values are and how they differ from yours and from many on the forum.

You want a culture war? I guess you figure that you've won. We'll see how that goes.

Personally I see this as reinforcing a ton of bad habits that were papered over by certain advantages that might not always be available. Lots of money can disguise bad and ineffectual strategies. Look at Jeb!

Do you guys really want to be remembered as the Jeb! folks with your drumbeat?

Culture war against folks who blindly and shamelessly defend serial sexual offenders out of blind party loyalty, and denigrate people who disagree with them as some "Jeb!/Cuck/non-Chad idiot meme?

Yeah, I'll take that fight 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.

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Erick Erickson, Guy Benson, Stephen Miller and their crew on Twitter are trying to spin this as a Republican win because (paraphrasing): "Jones will only serve one term in a deadlocked Congress. Republicans dodged a bullet." It amazes me than anyone can think of this as anything other than a win for Democrats and Jones. With Jones in the Senate, Republicans can only risk losing one vote from their caucus, this eases the fight to win back the Senate in 2018 for Democrats, and it emboldens the grassroots and  will inspire more candidates to run all over.

To be fair, they may have dodged a bullet in the long run, because they won't have Moore hanging around their necks. Still a huge victory overall for Democrats, makes things much tougher for congressional GOP policy wise.

Also, you should probably reference which Stephen Miller you're talking about in case anyone gets confused.

No. Trump and the RNC still went all in on a pedophile, and Jones winning doesn't change that. Sure, it staves off embarrassing tirades by Moore from the Senate floor, but no one in another state ever changed their vote because Louie Gohmert said some nutty thing, so why would they for Roy Moore if he had won?

If anything, Jones winning should embolden Democrats in theoretically more winnable races like Texas and Tennessee, if the turnout differentials are any indication at all. Jones got at least 5 points more than Clinton in every county, and in Texas, where Clinton got 43% of the vote, O'Rourke getting 5% more than Clinton in every county would make that race a tossup. Similar thing also coincidentally happened in virginia where Northam got 4% more than Clinton.

As for your signature, I agree that Cruz and Blackburn can certainly lose... if they're outed as pedophiles.

Turnout differentials in Texas.

And in TN, Bredesen is arguably of stronger candidate quality than Jones. And Blackburn isn't exactly one that's gonna win over many disaffected Trump 2016 voters.

To be sure though, I still would rate them both as lean/likely R.

Texas is possible in a perfect storm scenario, because Cruz is extremely unpopular with almost everyone, but Tennessee is a different story. I don't think Bredesen wins unless Blackburn has a major scandal or says something really, really stupid (even by her standards).

I give that about a 60/40 chance of occurring.

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My opinion of Kushner has gone way up.

You know what else has gone up?

The number of Roy Moore's accusers

You know what else has gone up?

His polling numbers! And Dems can only cry about it! You got nothing. You lose. Trump. Karen Handel. The immigration ban. The embassy. And AL-Sen. It is all happening.

Roy Moore is soaring in the polls.

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Great honer friends!

Seeing all these posts from the pedophile apologists is bringing a smile to my face.

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Here are some swings from Birmingham's suburbs.

Once again, don't show RINO Tom.

Amazing swings for Jones in White Bham suburbs though.

I know this has become a fun meme for you guys and whenever I respond to defend myself, you guys just mock me ... but why would you say "don't show" me?  Do you think I wasn't expecting this?  Or that it upsets me?  LOL, I would hope everyone of all income brackets, geographic aras and ideologies could unite against a pedophile creep with a terrible understanding of our Constitution.  All I said is that I don't think Jones would have performed that well against a Republican who wasn't accused of the same things as Moore ... how on EARTH is that controversial here?

Come on Tom. Lighten up a little.

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Jones also lives in Mountain Brook, I think. Or at least attends church there.

He voted there

Those were the areas of his strongest gains from Clinton's numbers, but he clearly kicked ass and took names throughout the Birmingham suburbs, even Beyond his own neighborhood.

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Greedo, you've been wrong about everything you ever said, you can't write legible English and you don't have a grasp of basic morality. Just stop expressing yourself, you have nothing worth saying and you also can't say things because you suck at language.

I never said the race was rigged but that there seems to be voter fraud going around,Doug Jones did win but that guy said he and others came from all over the country to vote for Doug Jones.

How does a single guy saying something matter? if I say that I helped the Clinton campaign bus in 3,0000 Mexicans so she could win the popular vote, does that make you believe it?

This is just more partisanship at work. Very low burden of proof for accusations against Democrats, and the highest burden of proof for any and all accusations against Republicans.

Greedo's comments are a prime example of why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. He doesn't really seem to question whether something is true or not so long as it makes him feel better about his political choices.

I'm no Doug Jones fan (obviously), and I have seen that video numerous times, but I don't think it's evidence of voter fraud.  Those people were likely working on his campaign, and almost every campaign requires employees to establish residency and register to vote in the state/city/district.  So, I think that's what they were meaning- they did vote and vote legally, but had only been technically living in Alabama for a short period of time.

Or more likely, in his excitement he nearly blurted the term to vote for Jones rather than to get people to vote for Jones or to support Jones. I'll bet you ten-to-one the dude never voted for anybody in that race, but knocked on hundreds of doors and registered dozens of Voters

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Greedo, you've been wrong about everything you ever said, you can't write legible English and you don't have a grasp of basic morality. Just stop expressing yourself, you have nothing worth saying and you also can't say things because you suck at language.

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And for that matter I thought Greedo was banned?

At any rate, since the Boy Dunder is still around, I'm asking this question. Since vote fraud goes on, how much vote fraud did the Roy Moore campaign manage? Surely you don't think that voter fraud is only committed by blacks, do you?

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Strange would have beat Jones. Almost certainly