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pbrower2a
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« on: November 04, 2019, 01:47:29 PM »

No, I'll take what is likely to actually happen in real life, which is that Trump will be decisively re-elected with the GOP taking back the House, and go all out on as many of the things they were restrained from doing in the first term.

'Taint happening that way, fellow. Trump isn't winning any state that he lost in 2016 in 2020. The electorate already looks more like that of 2018 than like that of 2010 or 2014 -- or even 2016. Democrats might lose a couple seats in the House, as unlikely wins often show why those wins were unlikely in the next election. A hint from that about Donald Trump: his election was unlikely, too.

After winning a close election, winning the next one practically requires that one pick up something to offset losses in the previous election. Donald Trump has delivered nothing except to right-wing special interests, and probably not enough to sate their rapacious dreams.

The Trump - Tea Party dream has become a nightmare for a majority of Americans.

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Let's dispel with this fiction that another President would automatically be more 'stable' and that another Republican would automatically be more appealing. Biden would effectively be a puppet for some truly malignant figures that do not deserve the power they would wield and would continue harming the world in the way they've had for decades. Never, ever, ever trust a candidate (especially a President) with a D next to their name. Candidates like DeSantis would have a harder time winning if we let them do what they want to do.


Whom do you mean by "we"?

A political leader with the probity of Barack Obama can be objectionable only for ideology. Trump is going down in 2020 for corruption and having poor relations with federal law enforcement, the Armed Forces, and the intelligence services. He promised loudly what proved unacceptable -- simply add more profit for the elites to everything in America. His idea of fixing the highways is to add tolls where they have not been before.  

I view Trump as one of our last hopes in truly fixing the major problems that haven't been even attempted to be solved until this point, in some cases problems that haven't even been highlighted by his predecessors.

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This board would best be served by shedding its kneejerk, thoughtless, anti-Trump hysteria (not from OP or PiT; I'm talking about...other users). Any scenario that doesn't involve his re-election is effectively a nail in the coffin for this country, and history will not judge those who voted him out in a good light. Smart people in that situation would be focusing on salvaging something out of the death of the country rather than salvaging the country itself.

As Colonel Sherman Potter (Harry Morgan, a superb actor) in M*A*S*H would put it:

Horse-hockey!

Donald Trump's despotic style is inconsistent with the vision of our Founding Fathers and all who have followed them. We did well enough before Trump and we will do well without him. This man has created the risk of a military coup that has never happened in America. He is a thoroughly-vile person, and monstrously corrupt. He has created a cult of personality around him, and he has infused political discourse with rancor and outright Newspeak. He exudes contempt for due process and the rule of law.

When Donald Trump was elected, I played Verdi's Requiem Mass, whose Dies Irae is one of the most ominous sections of music in any repertory, on my stereo. When Donald Trump is thoroughly purged from American politics, most likely in a decisive defeat a year from now, I will play Mahler's second "Resurrection" Symphony, a work of similar length and power, but with the happiest ending possible.

If we are lucky we will get Abraham Lincoln's "new Birth of Freedom" without bloodshed, whether in emancipating slaves or the victims of fascist concentration camps.  

  

  
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