Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

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There is no reason for non-doctor immigrants to live in small town America and nothing forcing them to stay there. Make the coasts even more crowded!

The Italians and Irish are responsible for more crime than anyone who ever lived so hardly great examples to make a case for even more.

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The only warning signs I see are Kamala's proposal to recreate the housing bubble. The student loan crisis, to the extent it exists because the bad loans are not a tremendous portion of the total, is likely to have a much more mitigated impact and won't collapse entire communities.

That's not to say things are fine and dandy and we shouldn't have something of a wealth tax to limit landlords from turning young people into permanent renters, but college debt is not turning a significant number of people permanently poor. It is turning quite a number of people into permanently high income however.

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https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1153273559395000322?s=20

The only warning signs I see are Kamala's proposal to recreate the housing bubble. The student loan crisis, to the extent it exists because the bad loans are not a tremendous portion of the total, is likely to have a much more motivated impact and won't collapse entire communities.

That's not to say things are fine and dandy and we shouldn't have something of a wealth tax to limit landlords from turning young people into permanent renters, but college debt is not turning a significant number of people permanently poor. It is turning quite a number of people into permanently high income however.

There is a chance of a recession in the next year or two. Of course Harris is an idiot, and what needs to be done is to repeal Prop. 13 and remove height limits in certain neighborhoods.

A recession is not a collapse. I think due to youth a lot of people here are way too panicked about what that means given that their only context is a worldwide meltdown where we suffered and still made out best. That or they are just hoping to see the political impacts which will be certainly happen but won't be overwhelming.

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Too classic! Here I was thinking that Sharpton's closest friend was Trump.

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1155893700746252290?s=19

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I think there is such a generational shift happening that it doesn't matter what corporate Democrats want, they have 4-10 years left tops. There isn't going to be less AOC's. The young generation that travels all around the world and can see things with their own eyes isn't going to be afraid of socialized medicine because some news chanel or insurance lobbyman has scary talking points.

 We will keep seeing the shift for the better I believe.

If the next generation has money to "travel all around the world", I don't want to hear a peep about student loan forgiveness under any circumstances. I am thankful that American government is set up to stonewall all of this.

The last thing people should be doing is selfish and dirty world travel over starting families and prudently saving.

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They also don't care about owning crap, they rather have experiences. So they spend money on travel rather than possessions.

It's funny how often I hear this while I know I will see just about every young person on the street back in their Canada Goose jackets next month. (And who knows what luxury item will be added as a new ubiquitous item for 2019). I guess the going rate for the coat is equal to just two of these 'extremely cheap' European flights so no big deal spending it.

It's not an either-or between spending on experience vs. material possessions. It's an either-or between selfish (or at least ill-advised) spending and fulfilling adult obligations.

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 The United States is the only developed country in the world without legally required paid vacation days or holidays. All the countries in the European Union have at least four work weeks of paid vacation by law. Again, pickup a book or travel you might learn something.

 If Sprouts doesn't want to sound like a geezer don't complain about people flying in airplanes and wearing puff jackets, dude literally sounds like Abe Simpson.

In spite of the fact that a few menial jobs don't come with vacation days, the average American takes 17 vacation days and 10 piaid holidays. That's dragged down by quite a few zeros skewing the set. America is hardly out of line with the rest of the world in practice. I have five weeks (with no experience to add on even more time) with three weeks worth of holidays, and I know multiple companies switching to an unlimited model recently (which is actually worse because it's a struggle to use the allotted time, and the competition would pressure you to take less time - but the option would be there!)

This isn't a question about having time. It's a question about funds and whether it is a just use of money over paying debt and bearing children. I am ashamed of the imprudence of the millennial generation.

You keep saying "pick up a book" (the ultimate insult of an elderly person), and it seems you mean "pick up the campaign literature that presents an incredibly stretched definition of reality in order to cause fear and/or loathing." I read plenty of books that represent actually cultured topics, not propaganda. And I refuse to waste money on useless and environmentally disastrous activities like world travel.

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In spite of the fact that a few menial jobs don't come with vacation days, the average American takes 17 vacation days and 10 piaid holidays. That's dragged down by quite a few zeros skewing the set.

 What's a few "menial" jobs? Why don't these workers deserve vacation if they are accruing work hours?

 30% of Americans are considered lower class and the median income of that group was $25,624 in 2016. Exactly how much vacation time do you think this group is getting?

An extremely limited number of days but some of this may be seasonal work. I already said there are quite a few zeroes dragging down the average, which is largely in line with the rest of the world. Regardless, you're the one who made this debate about sweeping generalizations of the millennial generation traveling the world so I only discussed that segment of millennials. I'm glad to suddenly hear 'they' are not able to travel (or at least the 30 percent of them who were clearly not part of the original disagreement). You can say conflicting things about a population that really only apply to 30 percent of a population segment all day long.

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I think there is such a generational shift happening that it doesn't matter what corporate Democrats want, they have 4-10 years left tops. There isn't going to be less AOC's. The young generation that travels all around the world and can see things with their own eyes isn't going to be afraid of socialized medicine because some news chanel or insurance lobbyman has scary talking points.

 We will keep seeing the shift for the better I believe.

If the next generation has money to "travel all around the world", I don't want to hear a peep about student loan forgiveness under any circumstances. I am thankful that American government is set up to stonewall all of this.

The last thing people should be doing is selfish and dirty world travel over starting families and prudently saving.

Your position is hardly surprisingly, given that travelling around the word is precisely what has enabled younger Americans to realise how profoundly destructive and unfair the debt-for-diploma US system is.

Mmhm. Not the Internet?

It's incredible that you guys can't see the contradiction. Those saddled with destructive debt are not the ones travelling the world - unless they have a very good job and get that benefit for free. You are mashing two different stereotypes of a generation together when in fact those groups have extremely limited overlap and still each individually represent a clear minority of the millennial population.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I think there is such a generational shift happening that it doesn't matter what corporate Democrats want, they have 4-10 years left tops. There isn't going to be less AOC's. The young generation that travels all around the world and can see things with their own eyes isn't going to be afraid of socialized medicine because some news chanel or insurance lobbyman has scary talking points.

 We will keep seeing the shift for the better I believe.

If the next generation has money to "travel all around the world", I don't want to hear a peep about student loan forgiveness under any circumstances. I am thankful that American government is set up to stonewall all of this.

The last thing people should be doing is selfish and dirty world travel over starting families and prudently saving.

Your position is hardly surprisingly, given that travelling around the word is precisely what has enabled younger Americans to realise how profoundly destructive and unfair the debt-for-diploma US system is.

Mmhm. Not the Internet?

It's incredible that you guys can't see the contradiction. Those saddled with destructive debt are not the ones travelling the world - unless they have a very good job and get that benefit for free.

Apparently not, given the number of MAGA crackpots on the web. We can blame echo chambers for this.

As for the rest, you're just following the Breitbart playbook: all-out attack so as not to defend your own contradictions.

Your first post: "If some US students can afford to travel, nobody should be allowed to criticise the university price racket, you moron"
Your second post: "Just because some can students afford to travel doesn't mean all do, you idiot"

Sad.

The first post is not me saying that no one should criticize it. I say IF that were the case (which it obviously is not), I do not want to hear that anymore. The whole point of every single post I've made is that people traveling the world to open their minds is not causing a leftward shift. The current state of education is very poor and a moderately risky investment that needs curtailing, and people can see their own means deteriorating before their eyes without wasting money on foreign travel. It's not the people who can afford European vacations that are coming to that conclusion that they want more handouts.