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  Who was more economically left-wing: Hitler, or Bill Clinton? (search mode)
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TheReckoning
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« on: September 20, 2021, 11:58:57 PM »

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TheReckoning
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2021, 10:58:10 PM »

Industries were privatized en masse under the Nazis. Bubba's Wall St. deregulations are child's play by comparison.

While true, this is misleading. The Nazi Party did privatize certain industries that they believed had too much Jewish Influence historically, but they didn’t hand it over to the free market- they handed it over to certain Nazi officials, who still used those industries heavily for the Nazi State agenda. The whole “Nazis were socialists lol” argument isn’t true, but saying they were pro-privatization doesn’t capture the whole story as well.

Anyways, one that I will say is that I think people here are missing something critical, and that’s that political philosophy is just as, if not more, important than actual policy. The Nazis weren’t socialist, but if taking from a rich pure “Aryan” would help feed a poor “Aryan”, Nazi’s would’ve supported that in an instant, at least once the Revolution had largely succeeded. I wouldn’t say this makes them economically left-wing, even relative to Clinton, but it doesn’t largely fit within modern libertarian economic interpretations as well.
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TheReckoning
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2021, 04:09:40 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2021, 04:16:28 PM by TheReckoning »

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Hitler of course also banned all trade unions that existed before his rise to power, replaced them one controlled by the Nazi Party, and outlawed striking. And the Nazis in principle were also opposed to social welfare, believing instead that the that the weak and feeble should perish. All of this means that Nazi Germany was far more hostile to workers' rights than either the Weimar Republic or the United States at the time.

Lenin also banned all private trade unions that existed prior to foundation of the USSR (or put them under the umbrella of the Communist Party) but that doesn’t mean that Lenin wasn’t far-left on the issue of economics. Additionally, while “survival of the fittest” was definitely a component of Nazi ideology, this didn’t so much apply to economics- Hitler was clear in his first radio address that “Our concern to provide daily bread will be equally a concern for the fulfillment of the responsibilities of society to those who are old and sick.” (https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-and-human-behavior/chapter-5/hitlers-first-radio-address)

Anyone who argues that the Nazis were socialists/left-wing will reach a dead end. But they did have some strains of thought that could be conceived as being “left-wing”- majorly so before the Night of Long Knives.
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