Who was more economically left-wing: Hitler, or Bill Clinton?

[TheReckoning]

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[Bootes Void]

This question is really not necessary

[Vice President Christian Man]

Hitler was arguably to the left of Bernie Sanders on economics. Bill would be a moderate Republican if it was only for economics.

[SWE]

The worst thing to happen to political discourse was The Political Compass

[Xing]

Am I really going to have to take back "California becoming a swing state" as the most ridiculous analysis I've seen on Atlas? Because calling Hitler "economically left-wing" probably has to be considered even worse.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Am I really going to have to take back "California becoming a swing state" as the most ridiculous analysis I've seen on Atlas? Because calling Hitler "economically left-wing" probably has to be considered even worse.

I don't think the OP is saying Hitler was more left-wing than Clinton, and even if it was saying Hitler was in any sense left-wing economically, I don't think it would be an absolute statement, only a relative one.

[Xing]

Am I really going to have to take back "California becoming a swing state" as the most ridiculous analysis I've seen on Atlas? Because calling Hitler "economically left-wing" probably has to be considered even worse.

I don't think the OP is saying Hitler was more left-wing than Clinton, and even if it was saying Hitler was in any sense left-wing economically, I don't think it would be an absolute statement, only a relative one.

OP may not have, but the other comment saying that Hitler is "left of Sanders" absolutely is.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Am I really going to have to take back "California becoming a swing state" as the most ridiculous analysis I've seen on Atlas? Because calling Hitler "economically left-wing" probably has to be considered even worse.

I don't think the OP is saying Hitler was more left-wing than Clinton, and even if it was saying Hitler was in any sense left-wing economically, I don't think it would be an absolute statement, only a relative one.

OP may not have, but the other comment saying that Hitler is "left of Sanders" absolutely is.

Oh, that's fair.
Honestly, if anything, questions like this show how empty labels can be in general.

[Alben Barkley]

The terrible takes in this thread have me damn near wanting to gouge my eyes out.

[KaiserDave]

Bill Clinton obviously

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

This is tied? Wow ...

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

History "education" in this country has so, so, so effing much to answer for.

[Big Abraham]

Industries were privatized en masse under the Nazis. Bubba's Wall St. deregulations are child's play by comparison.

[H. Ross Peron]

Hitler was arguably to the left of Bernie Sanders on economics.

This post gave me cancer.

[parochial boy]

The funny thing about setting your definition of left-wing economics on a simplistic assessment of how much does the state intervene in the economy is that it leads you to slightly insane conclusions such as that Proudhon - of "all property is theft" fame - was actually economically far right.

[Vice President Christian Man]

It's good to see that my post has stimulated this discussion, for better or for worse.

[Vice President Christian Man]

Am I really going to have to take back "California becoming a swing state" as the most ridiculous analysis I've seen on Atlas? Because calling Hitler "economically left-wing" probably has to be considered even worse.

Good to hear I officially dethroned that poster.

[Vice President Christian Man]

History "education" in this country has so, so, so effing much to answer for.

At least we agree on something

[Perlen vor den Schweinen]

Hitler's party had "socialist" in its name. Score +1 left-wing.

Clinton's party references Democracy - we know that the more democracy a country has, the less left-wing it can be. -1 on the left-wing points for Clinton. In addition, Hitler was not committed to democracy - +1 for Hitler's left-wing points.

Clinton would be a Republican nowadays, so another -1 for him.

I see why this poll is competitive - by some measures, Hitler was more left-wing than the neolib of the nineties.

[KaiserDave]

The funny thing about setting your definition of left-wing economics on a simplistic assessment of how much does the state intervene in the economy is that it leads you to slightly insane conclusions such as that Proudhon - of "all property is theft" fame - was actually economically far right.

That is the worst thing with these kind of questions. The idiotic assumption that state intervention in the economy equals leftism.

Also what Big Abraham said was absolutely right.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Remember, kids:

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

History "education" in this country has so, so, so effing much to answer for.

At least we agree on something

Based on your signature I think we actually agree on quite a bit. My suspicion is the main ideological barrier between us is probably issue emphasis.

But you're right that even people who genuinely are poles apart on interpretations of US history are usually able to agree that, if nothing else, the way it's currently taught is execrable. Even the (stupid) people who defend the way other subjects are taught in this country mostly agree that the content and style of American history classes is inexcusable. The sticking point is what to replace it with.

[Vice President Christian Man]

History "education" in this country has so, so, so effing much to answer for.

At least we agree on something

Based on your signature I think we actually agree on quite a bit. My suspicion is the main ideological barrier between us is probably issue emphasis.

But you're right that even people who genuinely are poles apart on interpretations of US history are usually able to agree that, if nothing else, the way it's currently taught is execrable. Even the (stupid) people who defend the way other subjects are taught in this country mostly agree that the content and style of American history classes is inexcusable. The sticking point is what to replace it with.

Absolutely. Sorry I came across as a bit cynical earlier, I was a bit surprised with how people reacted initially, but I agree with what you're saying.

[TheReckoning]

Industries were privatized en masse under the Nazis. Bubba's Wall St. deregulations are child's play by comparison.

While true, this is misleading. The Nazi Party did privatize certain industries that they believed had too much Jewish Influence historically, but they didn’t hand it over to the free market- they handed it over to certain Nazi officials, who still used those industries heavily for the Nazi State agenda. The whole “Nazis were socialists lol” argument isn’t true, but saying they were pro-privatization doesn’t capture the whole story as well.

Anyways, one that I will say is that I think people here are missing something critical, and that’s that political philosophy is just as, if not more, important than actual policy. The Nazis weren’t socialist, but if taking from a rich pure “Aryan” would help feed a poor “Aryan”, Nazi’s would’ve supported that in an instant, at least once the Revolution had largely succeeded. I wouldn’t say this makes them economically left-wing, even relative to Clinton, but it doesn’t largely fit within modern libertarian economic interpretations as well.

[Former President tack50]

Hitler belonged to a socialist party. Bill Clinton did not. I rest my case