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« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2020, 12:20:29 PM »

What's the Atlas concensus on that Arizona call?

Fox and AP seem adamant about it, but every other network keeps talking about the shrinking lead every 5 minutes.

Fox and AP are using a data source with precinct-level data that the others don't.  Evidently that data gave them enough confidence to make the call, and stand by it.  Whether that was justified or not is something we can't determine until the final results are in.
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« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2020, 12:25:57 PM »


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« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2020, 12:29:57 PM »

Does anyone seriously think Biden has a chance in AK? Why aren’t they calling it?

AK doesn't start counting mail ballots until a week after Election Day, and there are enough of them to hypothetically put Biden ahead.  Not that anyone expects this to happen, but given the circumstances it is reasonable for the networks to hold off calling it.
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« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2020, 12:32:20 PM »

Will NV be called today? or is everyone sh**tting their pants hoping PA does the job for everyone?

NV will not be called today.  PA may be called today, but Biden at this point is certain to win it in the end.  Biden will overtake Trump in GA today too, but the margin is going to be within recount range so they might not call it.  (ABC, for one, has a policy of not calling any state with a margin <1% until the results are official.)

In short: it's really all but over.  Trump's chances are like an ice cube on a hot sidewalk in the summer.  It's melting as we watch, and will soon be gone.
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« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2020, 12:39:41 PM »

Georgia is going to be extremely close, Biden's lead seems to have slightly expanded in Nevada, and I am still not sure on Penn.

PA is the most sure state for Biden out of all the remaining ones.  Stick a fork in it.
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« Reply #130 on: November 05, 2020, 12:40:16 PM »

Will NV be called today? or is everyone sh**tting their pants hoping PA does the job for everyone?

NV being called before PA would be terrifying because only AP and Fox have called AZ, but Trump could come back there.

I sincerely hope either PA/GA is called first, or another org calls AZ.

GA would only get Biden to 269.

No, Biden would have 270 due to capturing both NE-2 and ME-2.



Trump will win ME-2.  I believe this has been called by some outlets.
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« Reply #131 on: November 05, 2020, 12:42:20 PM »

Nate Silver on the 538 blog: "I’m not a decision desk, but I suppose I think Nevada is on the verge of being callable at this point. Two-thirds of the state’s population is in Clark County and Biden is gaining big in Clark County! Not sure I see the route for a Trump comeback."
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« Reply #132 on: November 05, 2020, 12:52:24 PM »

A bit of an aside, but I think Forsyth may end up around 65-33 Trump (71-24 Trump in 2016) once it's last mail-in votes are added. GeorgiaMod, your 65-35 prediction was pretty close!
What was the margin in the 2018 gubernatorial?

71-28 Kemp.

EDIT: I see forsythvoter posted 70-28.  The official result was 70.54-27.95 (I rounded up and he rounded down).
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« Reply #133 on: November 05, 2020, 12:58:24 PM »


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« Reply #134 on: November 05, 2020, 01:00:25 PM »



Could Biden end up with over 5 million of the popular vote?

You mean a PV margin of over 5M?  Yes, he will certainly exceed that.
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« Reply #135 on: November 05, 2020, 01:05:04 PM »



Could Biden end up with over 5 million of the popular vote?

You mean a PV margin of over 5M?  Yes, he will certainly exceed that.

What are we looking at? 7 to 8 million margin in the PV? Could it crack 10M?

7 to 8 is a likely range.  10 would be a big stretch, although not completely impossible.
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« Reply #136 on: November 05, 2020, 01:05:58 PM »


So Joe needs 64% of them? He will probably end up with a .4% V?

Yeah, about 20K votes or 0.4% is my estimate.
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« Reply #137 on: November 05, 2020, 02:48:46 PM »

Deputy SoS of Georgia says that the margin-of-victory might be 1,000 votes.  Let's assume that we end up with 4,980,648 total votes cast.  

A margin-of-victory of 1,000 would be 0.0002% (or two ten-thousandths of a percent)

According to my research, that would eclipse Florida 2000 (0.00921%) as the closest state ever (by percentage) in a U.S. Presidential election.  

Mind your decimals. Smiley  1K/5M is about 0.0002 as a fraction.  But to change to percent, you need to move the decimal point two places to the right.  It's 0.02%.

(The Florida comparison should have made the original number immediately look funny.  Clearly ~500/6M is a smaller percentage than 1K/5M.)

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« Reply #138 on: November 05, 2020, 03:00:48 PM »

Prediction from an old election junkie: although this may seem agonizingly slow now, in a few months you'll look back on this time and miss it.
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« Reply #139 on: November 05, 2020, 03:09:15 PM »

Prediction from an old election junkie: although this may seem agonizingly slow now, in a few months you'll look back on this time and miss it.

Did you vote for Harrison or Cleveland, GM? Tongue

Which Harrison?
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« Reply #140 on: November 05, 2020, 03:12:10 PM »

Prediction from an old election junkie: although this may seem agonizingly slow now, in a few months you'll look back on this time and miss it.

Did you vote for Harrison or Cleveland, GM? Tongue

Which Harrison?

The one who faced Cleveland?

Yeah, I meant to type "which time?" (which would have made sense and been much funnier) but my fingers got in the way. Wink
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« Reply #141 on: November 05, 2020, 03:14:22 PM »

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« Reply #142 on: November 05, 2020, 03:15:34 PM »


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« Reply #143 on: November 05, 2020, 03:19:10 PM »


There are 8,000 outstanding but they need to be received by tomorrow if they are in the mail at all (big if).

On MSNBC they said a military guy was meeting with Trump just now.

Chances Trump is demanding they speed up delivery and/or commit some kind of fraud over ballots in Georgia?

Based on comments by ex-military members and service families I know in Georgia, I wouldn't expect these to be a lifesaver for Trump.
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« Reply #144 on: November 05, 2020, 04:01:01 PM »



Lets see god come down and do something about it. If he doesn't then what can anyone say.

God: "I'll send them a plague!  No, wait..."
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« Reply #145 on: November 05, 2020, 04:01:57 PM »

GA - Biden down by 12,764 (98% counted)

Of the remaining ~100,512 votes to be counted, Biden only needs to win 56,638 of them - (56.3%)

PA - Biden down by 108,367 (92% counted)

Of the remaining ~560,502 votes to be counted, Biden needs to win 334,500 of them - (59.7%)




That "needs to win" percentage looks like it's dropping a good amount from yesterday.

That's because Biden's been running ahead of his needed pace consistently.  The more he does that, the lower the threshold goes for the remaining votes.
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« Reply #146 on: November 05, 2020, 04:08:10 PM »


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« Reply #147 on: November 05, 2020, 04:12:02 PM »

LOL:



Scott, take it from an old card player: no matter how long you stare at a deuce, it ain't gonna turn into an ace.
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« Reply #148 on: November 05, 2020, 04:21:03 PM »


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« Reply #149 on: November 05, 2020, 04:22:29 PM »


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