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« Reply #150 on: August 02, 2020, 05:08:49 PM »

Anyway...
Good read. Thank you
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« Reply #151 on: August 02, 2020, 05:46:19 PM »

Between the lines: The message Biden's team took from the primary is that Democrats just want to win. (Don't forget Biden's pledge to "beat him like a drum" in the election.)

The Biden campaign's internal polling shows voters aren't hyper-enthusiastic about Biden as a candidate, but they are highly motivated to vote Trump out of office, per a source who was briefed on the results.

If the base is as motivated as the campaign assumes it is, it relieves pressure to pick a darling of the progressive movement, like Sen. Elizabeth Warren, according to several Democratic strategists.

Instead, the thinking goes, Biden could pick someone who's lesser-known but could help him win and isn't easily branded by the Trump campaign.


This lesser-known sure sounds like Tammy Duckworth to me. Anyone disagree?

Selecting a dsiabled veteran makes it very, very hard for your opponents to attack you without pissing off someone important.

I feel like Duckworth went on FOX with Chris Wallace today at the direction of team Biden. If they want to test her ability with a difficult interviewer, it makes a lot of sense. Wallace is among the best in the business, he’s not like Hannity and the others on there.
I watched that interview in its entirety. They were softball questions at best.
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« Reply #152 on: August 02, 2020, 05:51:47 PM »

Some of y'all are overestimating the importance/appeal of a military background in 2020.
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« Reply #153 on: August 02, 2020, 06:25:38 PM »

Literally every time I go on Facebook I've got the Biden campaign asking me "dO u LiKe tHiS wOmAn fOr vP??" It's so ing obvious what they're planning that it's actually infuriating me that it's taking this long for like 5 possible candidates

Like ads or surveys?
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« Reply #154 on: August 02, 2020, 06:31:40 PM »


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« Reply #155 on: August 02, 2020, 06:36:40 PM »
« Edited: August 02, 2020, 06:42:55 PM by BidenHarris2020 »

Before midnight deadline. It could very well come this week.
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« Reply #156 on: August 02, 2020, 06:47:46 PM »

Before midnight deadline. It could very well come this week.

Thank God. This thread can finally be locked
Lettuce pray for Monday.
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« Reply #157 on: August 02, 2020, 06:54:18 PM »

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« Reply #158 on: August 02, 2020, 07:40:11 PM »

Some of y'all are overestimating the importance/appeal of a military background in 2020.

Oh yes of course. Trump, a draft-dodger and Pence, someone who who's on record as opposing women in the military, are going to easily attack a disabled female veteran. That will absolutely not piss off anyone at all.
He literally attacked the parents of a dead vet. And got elected shortly after. NOTHING is beneath this man.
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« Reply #159 on: August 02, 2020, 11:10:52 PM »

Optics, optics, optics. Polling be damed, the vp to the first black president will not pass over qualified black women in favour of a 70 year old white woman. There will be backlash
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« Reply #160 on: August 02, 2020, 11:28:41 PM »

Optics, optics, optics. Polling be damed, the vp to the first black president will not pass over qualified black women in favour of a 70 year old white woman. There will be backlash

You make me want Rice over Harris.
....ok?
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« Reply #161 on: August 03, 2020, 06:07:15 AM »

LMAO Ed Rendell is irrelevant and just needs to STFU already


..is he senile?
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« Reply #162 on: August 03, 2020, 09:44:50 AM »

Looks like remaining short listers (whoever they may be) were told to be ready for interviews, though they still don’t know if they’ll be in person or not:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/03/biden-vice-president-search-390853

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At least some of the contenders were in the dark on Sunday about their upcoming interviews with Biden: They were told to be prepared for in-person sit-downs while at the same time cautioned that could change due to health and logistical concerns surrounding Covid-19.
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On Sunday, a Biden aide maintained that 11 women remain in the mix, despite most of the attention in recent weeks swirling around five women: Harris, Warren, Rep. Karen Bass, Sen. Tammy Duckworth and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice. Aides said Biden has pushed back his planned announcement by a week to next week.

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After a contingent of California officials had also lobbied Biden in favor of Bass, Duckworth and Rice and against Harris, the Biden vetting team held a conference call with Harris allies to hear them argue in favor of her candidacy. A source told POLITICO that Harris was the only potential VP candidate who was afforded such a call, which included all four of Biden's vetting team cochairs.

How is he still down to 11 women two weeks before the convention. 🤨
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« Reply #163 on: August 03, 2020, 10:30:45 AM »

Amzi Qureshi, a Muslim American Warren supporter, has done a remarkable 800-tweet thread on the work she's done on racial justice and for other marginalized groups:

https://twitter.com/AmziQureshi/status/1290000645118783488?s=20
This tweet thread is absurd. She was a Republican until she was in her 60’s. I’m glad she made some nice speeches and said Black Lives Matter at a forum but to proclaim she’s done more for racial justice than almost any other politician is laughable.
"Racial Justice Warrior" lmaooo these yt feminists are something else.

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« Reply #164 on: August 03, 2020, 10:42:00 AM »

The idea that a white woman is better suited to addressing/supporting racial Justice issues than a black woman is LAUGHABLE at best. No matter how many times Liz tries to shapeshift/tick boxes on a form. Lived experience MATTERS.
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« Reply #165 on: August 03, 2020, 10:48:49 AM »

The idea that a white woman is better suited to addressing/supporting racial Justice issues than a black woman is LAUGHABLE at best. No matter how many times Liz tries to shapeshift/tick boxes on a form. Lived experience MATTERS.

You don't need to tear others down to make a point.
I'm not tearing her down, I'm simply stating a fact.
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« Reply #166 on: August 03, 2020, 11:05:07 AM »

Amzi Qureshi, a Muslim American Warren supporter, has done a remarkable 800-tweet thread on the work she's done on racial justice and for other marginalized groups:

https://twitter.com/AmziQureshi/status/1290000645118783488?s=20
This tweet thread is absurd. She was a Republican until she was in her 60’s. I’m glad she made some nice speeches and said Black Lives Matter at a forum but to proclaim she’s done more for racial justice than almost any other politician is laughable.

Good to know that there's a cut off for doing work that helps people. If you're a Republican into your 60's, you can't change and do good work for the black community. A lot of people had political revelations around the time she did, and hers was specifically in response to the research she was doing in her field, but nah she came across that too late so it doesn't count.
Opportunism. Window dressing. We see it all the time with Demcorats with senatorial/presidential ambitions. The touring of the black churches, attending that one Sunday service in Ebenezer, etc. We see right through it.
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« Reply #167 on: August 03, 2020, 11:29:54 AM »

Much ado about nothing 
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« Reply #168 on: August 03, 2020, 11:46:15 AM »

By bet is on an email/announcement of a virtual event. Video starts, with Biden and she who has yet to be named(at his residence). Rallies are out.
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« Reply #169 on: August 03, 2020, 12:28:31 PM »

Now is the time for some enterprising journalists to be tracking the every movement of each of the presumed finalists.  If they are actually going to meet Biden in person, then potentially you can find clues of their travel.  Though veep candidates often tend to be sneaky about this.  Paul Ryan was supposedly on a "family vacation" when he snuck out to meet with Romney back in 2012.

Of course, if the meetings are virtual, then this doesn't apply.  They could be anywhere.

There should be reporters camped outside his Delaware residence day and night.
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« Reply #170 on: August 03, 2020, 12:30:23 PM »

The people concern trolling about Warren’s having been a Republican 30 years ago are gonna freak when they hear about Brown v. Plata and Harris’s attitude towards pot.
That y’all can’t see the irony in White people telling Black people on this forum that Warren (who pretended to be a woman of color for decades and supported the GOP during the War on Drugs and AIDS crisis) has done more for us than any other politician is peak Atlas.

Some people just can’t stand that Harris is the future of the party
They're too busy posting about John Rolfe's wife or Ms. Fargo
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« Reply #171 on: August 03, 2020, 12:48:58 PM »

I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.
If Biden is waiting on Congress, the VP pick isnt coming until next year
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« Reply #172 on: August 03, 2020, 01:17:05 PM »

The people concern trolling about Warren’s having been a Republican 30 years ago are gonna freak when they hear about Brown v. Plata and Harris’s attitude towards pot.
That y’all can’t see the irony in White people telling Black people on this forum that Warren (who pretended to be a woman of color for decades and supported the GOP during the War on Drugs and AIDS crisis) has done more for us than any other politician is peak Atlas.
Pure comedy. 😂

That you can’t see that Black people aren’t even pulling for Harris is even more ironic. She didn’t catch on in the primary and she isn’t blowing the rest of the potential VP picks out of the water among blacks in polls for a reason. Yeah she has a black/brown face, but Warren has actually fought for black/brown causes and not locked people up for marijuana possession.
I'm black. Dont you dare talk down to me.
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« Reply #173 on: August 03, 2020, 01:18:12 PM »

I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.
If Biden is waiting on Congress, the VP pick isnt coming until next year

There has to be some strategy to it, maybe announce tomorrow if they're in a stalemate and have the VP make the rounds and push Congress to act. But if they don't pass a stimulus bill, it'll accelerate an already on-coming depression.
Interesting strategy. Even more so if the VP  nominee is a member of Congress herself.
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« Reply #174 on: August 03, 2020, 01:42:17 PM »

I refuse to argue with a white man who claims to know what "blacks" want or don't want.  Not in 2020.

I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.
If Biden is waiting on Congress, the VP pick isnt coming until next year

There has to be some strategy to it, maybe announce tomorrow if they're in a stalemate and have the VP make the rounds and push Congress to act. But if they don't pass a stimulus bill, it'll accelerate an already on-coming depression.
Interesting strategy. Even more so if the VP  nominee is a member of Congress herself.

I agree. Kamala Harris has been pushing the $2000/mo until the pandemic is over for every American which I believe Ro Khanna also sponsored. Karen Bass the Chair of the Black Congressional Caucus. Elizabeth Warren as well would do well in that spot. Biden really needs to go with his gut, if he really is uncomfortable with Kamala Harris, then don't pick her, might be a little short-sighted but do what's best for you, he earned this nomination.
Is there precedent for that? A VP nominee who is also a member of congress, taking an active vocal role (in negotiations) in the midst of an election. I'm trying to think back to 2012.
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