Did Tipper and Lieberman hurt Gore with young voters?

[Battista Minola 1616]

though they did talk about her staunch pro-choice positions on abortion-which I find to be greatly ironic.

Lieberman was also pro-choice and for LGBT rights. The Religious Right != soccer momism.

The fear of Tipper and Lieberman, combined with Bush saying, “Too often, on social issues, my party has painted an image of America slouching toward Gomorrah”, may have made Bush seem like the less “puritanical” candidate.

You're right, but it still seemed jarring to me. From the media reports, you would get the impression that Tipper Gore was a liberated, modern woman, not the "moralizing household wife" that she seemed to be as a result of her music censorship campaign. As I said, they did not mention it. But getting back to what I was saying earlier, part of the reason Gore chose Lieberman was because he was trying to distance himself from Clinton, and to demonstrate to American voters that his administration would be a more ethical, less controversial one. Lieberman was one of Clinton's strongest critics in the Senate, even though like all other Democrats he voted to acquit him.

I'm not sure who you are attributing that to, but I find the idea of discussing if the nominee's wife is a "liberated, modern woman" or a "moralizing household wife" pretty gross.

[Battista Minola 1616]

though they did talk about her staunch pro-choice positions on abortion-which I find to be greatly ironic.

Lieberman was also pro-choice and for LGBT rights. The Religious Right != soccer momism.

The fear of Tipper and Lieberman, combined with Bush saying, “Too often, on social issues, my party has painted an image of America slouching toward Gomorrah”, may have made Bush seem like the less “puritanical” candidate.

You're right, but it still seemed jarring to me. From the media reports, you would get the impression that Tipper Gore was a liberated, modern woman, not the "moralizing household wife" that she seemed to be as a result of her music censorship campaign. As I said, they did not mention it. But getting back to what I was saying earlier, part of the reason Gore chose Lieberman was because he was trying to distance himself from Clinton, and to demonstrate to American voters that his administration would be a more ethical, less controversial one. Lieberman was one of Clinton's strongest critics in the Senate, even though like all other Democrats he voted to acquit him.

I'm not sure who you are attributing that to, but I find the idea of discussing if the nominee's wife is a "liberated, modern woman" or a "moralizing household wife" pretty gross.

I'm certainly not trying to cast aspersions on Tipper Gore, or anyone else. I'm discussing the contrast between how she was portrayed in the media reports on the 2000 election, and how she came off as in that Oprah Winfrey Show episode. Like I've noted, the media highlighted how she had pushed her husband to become more openly pro-choice on abortion, but said nothing about the PMRC or anything associated with it.

I understand. But then why do people sometimes say that Tipper Gore's association with PMRC moved a certain type of young person to Bush if that was not something that got talked about during the campaign?

[Battista Minola 1616]

though they did talk about her staunch pro-choice positions on abortion-which I find to be greatly ironic.

Lieberman was also pro-choice and for LGBT rights. The Religious Right != soccer momism.

The fear of Tipper and Lieberman, combined with Bush saying, “Too often, on social issues, my party has painted an image of America slouching toward Gomorrah”, may have made Bush seem like the less “puritanical” candidate.

You're right, but it still seemed jarring to me. From the media reports, you would get the impression that Tipper Gore was a liberated, modern woman, not the "moralizing household wife" that she seemed to be as a result of her music censorship campaign. As I said, they did not mention it. But getting back to what I was saying earlier, part of the reason Gore chose Lieberman was because he was trying to distance himself from Clinton, and to demonstrate to American voters that his administration would be a more ethical, less controversial one. Lieberman was one of Clinton's strongest critics in the Senate, even though like all other Democrats he voted to acquit him.

I'm not sure who you are attributing that to, but I find the idea of discussing if the nominee's wife is a "liberated, modern woman" or a "moralizing household wife" pretty gross.

I'm certainly not trying to cast aspersions on Tipper Gore, or anyone else. I'm discussing the contrast between how she was portrayed in the media reports on the 2000 election, and how she came off as in that Oprah Winfrey Show episode. Like I've noted, the media highlighted how she had pushed her husband to become more openly pro-choice on abortion, but said nothing about the PMRC or anything associated with it.

I understand. But then why do people sometimes say that Tipper Gore's association with PMRC moved a certain type of young person to Bush if that was not something that got talked about during the campaign?

The media reports I'm referring to are those of NBC News, which are available on YouTube. I don't know if ABC or CBS mentioned the PMRC, though I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. But the media, as I noted above, did talk about Lieberman's comments, and Gore's push to distance himself from Clinton, from a moral perspective, alienated many voters who approved of Clinton's job performance. A considerable number of these people cast their ballots for Nader.

Ah. I know about the Gore/Lieberman push to distance themselves from certain perceptions about Clinton. And I feel like they misread the electorate and/or they ended up with the wrong message passing.