NY: Convicted Felon Donald Trump!

[Edu]

Also how sad is it that not a single person here is arguing that Trump isn't guilty. All of the "don't indict" arguments are just people worried that his reaction will be so bad that he will incite terrorism. Like how far have we fallen as a nation?

Seriously, one of the biggest grievances that people all around the world have is that politicians seem to be able to do whatever they want and rarely have to face legal consequences. The fact that a possible Trump indictment produces such terror and arguments about "precedent" or some such bullcrap is pretty messed up.

[Edu]

Cause you don’t want to set a precedent where each administration tries to go after the other because the fact is presidents operate under legally grey areas all the time when it comes to foreign policy . Do you really want to open that can of worms .

It’s why it should only be done in extremely flagrant cases like the two I mentioned

Yes, leaders around the world have had, still have and will always have some sort of legal leeway to do things in some matters related to the security and the regular functioning of a nation state, all of this has absolutely nothing to do with regular crimes commited by a politician.

If you believe that a politician arrested and convicted for, let's say, embezzlement will lead to them being convicted for things related to actual national security then you are reaching fantasy territory.
For all your talk about "Law and order" you must think very poorly about your legal system, since you believe that, in the future, any politician that would be accused of anything would definitely be found guilty by the courts. Ironic because with that mindset, in Argentina you would be a defender of Cristina Kirchner and talk about judicial and political persecution.

Also, not sure how your example about how only the worst crimes like "January 6th" should be prosecuted stands up. Like half the country thinks that nothing illegal happened on that day, so if you are worried that people will riot because Trump is indicted the danger will still be there. If we are talking about your worries that a precedent will be set and the next administration will come out against the old one, then this would also potentially happen in this case since republican politicians seems to be fine with what happened that day including calls that the election was rigged. Republican politicians that you support qustioning the legitimacy of the election without any proof seems to set a worse "precedent" than Trump being arrested for tax evasion or whatever.

[Edu]

I disagree as arresting Bush and Cheney would have not been good for our nation.

lmao, the "greatest democracy" and the "leader of the free world" can't handle one of their leaders being tried for crimes and corruption without everything collapsing into civil strife. SAD!

[Edu]

Good, presidents shouldn't be above the law. If prosecuting a president for a financial crime really tears up your country to the point where civil unrest is possible then your are living in a joke country.

I'm just gonna post some stuff I said las year that basically sum up my thinking:

Seriously, one of the biggest grievances that people all around the world have is that politicians seem to be able to do whatever they want and rarely have to face legal consequences. The fact that a possible Trump indictment produces such terror and arguments about "precedent" or some such bullcrap is pretty messed up.

Yes, leaders around the world have had, still have and will always have some sort of legal leeway to do things in some matters related to the security and the regular functioning of a nation state, all of this has absolutely nothing to do with regular crimes commited by a politician.

If you believe that a politician arrested and convicted for, let's say, embezzlement will lead to them being convicted for things related to actual national security then you are reaching fantasy territory.
For all your talk about "Law and order" you must think very poorly about your legal system, since you believe that, in the future, any politician that would be accused of anything would definitely be found guilty by the courts. Ironic because with that mindset, in Argentina you would be a defender of Cristina Kirchner and talk about judicial and political persecution

[Edu]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1796440638617244012

[Edu]

Cause it will begin a huge tit for tat response with soon every president and governor going to prison

Every single one of your governors and presidents are corrupt? wow, sounds like this "USA" country is a sh*thole

[Edu]

Avenatti, Blagojevich...lol. When can we expect Kim Dotcom to chime in on this?

[Edu]

Also, good to see former Atlas titan Darryl W Perry on the right side of history.


https://twitter.com/DarrylWPerry/status/1796613092723642672

[Edu]

Omg there is nothing wrong with so-called "armed robbery"!  The charges against him should have never been brought!  The people he supposedly robbed are all liars!  The prosecution was biased!  The jury was biased!  Former presidents should never be charged with alleged crimes, because it's bad for the country!

I just donated $1000 to the 'Draft Carter 2024' PAC.

You forget the strong argument that if a former president is prosecuted for armed robbery then Soros and the deep state will come for us, normal people, next. This is preposterous, better do your armed robbery while you can, fellow citizens!

[Edu]

[Edu]

It's not toxic to express support for Trump to go to jail. I too share support for the outcome of the trial and have expressed my view on that, as has other people. Now, it is generally toxic to relentlessly mock and and get personal towards people based purely on their view towards the verdict. It would be toxic if Trumpists were doing it (and they are in some corners of the Internet dominated by Trump supporters) and it's toxic as well if anti-Trumpists are doing it. Especially as, instead of playing the man, they could instead just say they have no reason to view it as unfair, even politely say there's no real room to debate that. and stop there...going out of your way to get nasty at people and unpromptedly attacking them like this just because of political disagreement over the trial, even those who think the trial was fair...is awful.

[Edu]

If mostly the only thing to that effect that we had was the meme you posted one page or so earlier, I'd be laughing. Your meme did make me chuckle a bit when I first saw it.
I'll show some magnanimousness myself though and give you recommends on both of them, including this one, regardless. In deference to your meme-making skills (regardless of my feelings behind what's behind them).
It's not like I've never made memes either. You've got to be able to laugh at yourself and others.
Good luck.

I'm too drunk to understand what thye hell you atre wriiting (seriously WTH), so I hope you liked it, and hope you enjoyed your plain bread. God bless you. Love you little Phil