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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2020, 09:49:10 AM »

Just woke up, are we still heading toward 306-232?
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« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2020, 10:27:29 AM »

I feel like I've aged ten years in one night.
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« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2020, 10:42:11 AM »

fink nooooo
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« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2020, 10:43:26 AM »


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« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2020, 11:14:34 AM »

Pottawatamie County Iowa is looking weird. It was 57R/36D in 2016, and now NYT is showing it as 57D/40R.

A D swing would have been expected there, but not that dramatic. Error?
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« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2020, 11:52:11 AM »

Minnesota caught be off guard last night.  Thought it would be much closer

Minnesota - titanium Likely D?

Yes it is!

Turnout is already high, so it's immune to turnout surges, and there are almost no persuadable voters. It's partisan hacks, both sides, all the way through.
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« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2020, 12:16:34 PM »

How is Georgia looking?
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« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2020, 12:19:45 PM »


Rust Belt saving Biden from the suddenly-Trumpist Latinos


He could drop below 50%.
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« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2020, 12:31:02 PM »

Agree with you on everything except GA.
There still is a path for Dems in GA, even if narrow.

I think this is the least-doomy post I've ever seen from you. I'm impressed
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« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2020, 12:36:37 PM »

Looking through the results in Virginia, and Biden is indeed the first democrat to win Virginia Beach since 1964 at the presidential level. The Margin is currently 53.0-45.4 (+7.6) according to the NYT page. Not unexpected, but still noteworthy I feel.

Realignment!

2024 needs to be going all-in on NC and GA.
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« Reply #60 on: November 04, 2020, 12:54:43 PM »

I have to wonder about the appearance of Biden momentum in Florida. Was it fake? Or was Biden on track to lose Florida by even more, and narrowed it at the last minute?
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« Reply #61 on: November 04, 2020, 01:12:10 PM »

The swings in WI are super fascinating. Atlas is going to a field day analyzing all the results once we get the complete results. Looks like Biden won because of a few factors:
1) D Turnout in Milwaukee County: Hillary won +162K, while Biden won it by +183K
2) D Turnout in Dane County: Hillary won +132K, while Biden won it by +181K
3) Decreased R margins in WOW: Hillary lost by -104K, while Biden lost them by -97K depite a huge turnout increase

Combined, these 3 areas gave Hillary a net margin of +180K, while Biden won them by +267K

In the rest of WI, Hillary lost by -203K, while Biden lost by -246k!

So anyway looks like Kenosha county WI swung 2 points to the right,

Kenosha BUMP?

lol.


Rural-Urban polarization increasing even further.

Becoming increasingly clear that it's not rural-urban, it's educated-uneducated.
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« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2020, 01:37:09 PM »

When was the last time there was Democratic President, Republican Senate and Democratic House?

Grover Cleveland's first term.

Seems R senate/D house is a rare combination.
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« Reply #63 on: November 04, 2020, 02:58:22 PM »

279, 290, or 306. That’s about where we are.
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« Reply #64 on: November 04, 2020, 05:28:25 PM »

Theory, and maybe some consolation for (likely) losing the Senate:

Just like we saw in the 2010 and 2014 midterms, a lot of the “Obama coalition” did not bother to turn out to the polls to vote for anyone but Obama. Generic Democrat suffered as a result. I think Trump really drives up turnout among WWC rurals, and they’ll vote for downballot Rs while they’re at it, but many don’t bother to show up for JUST John James or whoever the f—k as we saw in 2018. So maybe this gives us a shot if the GA senate seats both go to a run-off, and MAYBE even in 2022. We shall see.

I've been thinking along the same lines. It seems that when Trump is on the ballot, you should just ignore the polls.
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« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2020, 05:39:22 PM »


That's Blunt, not Hawley. Hawley is 2024. Which is good, because Blunt is extremely weak.

Hoping for a Greitens primary challenge. Blunt and Greitens would vote basically the same way in the Senate (so not a risk), but Blunt is merely a weak candidate, while Greitens is Missouri's Kobach, literally baggage personified.

And then the D, ideally, would be one of Nixon, Kander, or Galloway. I don't think any others have the statewide profile and name-recognition needed, though of course that may be different two years from now.
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« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2020, 06:36:35 PM »

Trump's going to try and run again in 4 years, isn't he? Ugh

Not if NY's got him locked up Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2020, 08:05:06 PM »



Biden +4.3 is not good to be clear, but it does indicate that states like Arizona and Georgia (and even North Carolina) are moving left faster than the nation at large. This would be good news for the 2024 nominee.

Yes, Georgia flipping in a Dem <5 environment is impressive for Biden.

Imagine if it had actually been Dem +10.
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« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2020, 12:22:57 AM »

Is Perdue under 50?
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« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2020, 12:53:01 AM »

I can't do anything. I'm sitting at the computer watching YouTube videos and checking this thread after each one. I have so much work to do, but I can't focus on anything else.

Come through, Georgia!
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« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2020, 12:59:14 AM »

Biden probably does better in Pennsylvania than Wisconsin and Michigan.

Every instinct everyone had about this election was wrong, wow.

Seems like whenever Trump is on the ballot, all bets are off.

I guess that's a good sign for 2022. Knock on wood.

Hearing a rumor that NV is holding off on releasing the vote count until later today because the GOP SOS didn't want to be responsible giving the 270 votes to Biden.

How did she hold on in 2018 when all other Nevada Republicans lost?
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« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2020, 01:00:50 AM »



The Great Education Divide.
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« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2020, 01:54:26 AM »

Wait, so does this lower figure make PA look better or worse for Biden?
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« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2020, 11:38:03 AM »


YES
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« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2020, 03:22:42 PM »

Trumpland


^ this guy literally just unironically posted a Roosh V tweet
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