2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[BlueSwan]

Despite being a pessimist at heart, I have a hard time seeing massive turnout numbers like these possibly being bad for Uncle Joe. Why would millions of normally disengaged voters suddenly turn out for the orange clown? It would make basically zero sense. You would have to think that a majority of these people are showing up to get rid of him.

[BlueSwan]

Awful. Looks like we're not getting a landslide. Hoping Joe can pull off NC, GA or AZ.

[BlueSwan]

Oh God, this is going to be a nightmare...

[BlueSwan]

My feeling right now is that this is going to come down to PA, which is a nightmare.

[BlueSwan]

NYT needle just turned to Trump in NC as well.

It's all going to come down to PA, folks. This is a legit nightmare.

[BlueSwan]

I don't believe for a second that Biden wins Ohio.

[BlueSwan]

I'm almost certain that this is going to come down to PA.

[BlueSwan]

I guess f***ing Robert C. Cahaly is the new God is polling. This is so awful, I can't believe it.

[BlueSwan]

People are saying the polls are wrong but, are there really any states where the polls look like they're outrageously wrong? The polls showed a close race in FL, NC, OH, TX, GA, etc. Trump winning each by 1% doesn't mean the Biden+2 polls were wrong.

Polls were probably about 6 point off in Florida, which is quite a lot. Probably less off in the other mentioned states, but off EVERYWHERE in the same direction, which is very concerning.

[BlueSwan]

Fox calls AZ for Biden

This alone is cathartic.

Yeah, basically the first good news of the entire night.

[BlueSwan]

Absolutely insane that Biden might end up winning GA/AZ/NV, yet still lose the election due to an epic polling error in WI/MI/PA.

[BlueSwan]

Imagine going through the last four years and saying "Yeah, we want another four of this sh!t". America is doomed, even if Biden ekes it finally out. Trump should have been rejected by an epic margin.

I absolutely agree. Even if Biden ends up eeking this out, which I still very much doubt, then this is a horrifying result given that everybody has seen what a raging lunatic Donald Trump is. The future for America and frankly the civilized western world, looks very bleak indeed.

[BlueSwan]

Obama made a huge mistake by not pushing for DC statehood when he had the trifecta.

In retrospect he made a LOT of mistakes when he had not only a trifecta, but briefly a supermajority.

[BlueSwan]

Obama made a huge mistake by not pushing for DC statehood when he had the trifecta.

In retrospect he made a LOT of mistakes when he had not only a trifecta, but briefly a supermajority.

I just don’t get why he didn’t do DC statehood. It would have been so easy

He was trying to "reach out" to republicans, remember.

Obama was a sublime campaigner and a great presidential figure and symbolic leader of the free world, but he was NOT good at power politics at all.

[BlueSwan]

Just a very weird and disappointing election overall. Biden seemingly doing worse than Clinton in many working-class areas ranging from Youngstown to the Rio Grande Valley despite an admirable recovery in the Iron Range and New England. Even the denser white working class suburbs which I had thought were more winnable (Macomb, Long Island, Staten Island) have swung massively towards Trump with him currently leading in Nassau. Blue Dog Democrats like Bullock, Peterson, Torres-Small lost their races. A Democratic Senate looks increasingly unlikely and its clear that the dominant narrative will be that Trump defied the polls yet again even if Biden pulls through on the outstanding absentee ballots in the Rust Belt trio. Any semblance of moral victory against Trumpism or of a decisive electoral defeat for the GOP has been lost. At best, Biden will preside over a replay of Obama's second term with all the potential for midterm disaster and a rerun of Trumpism in 2024 that it entails.

I hate saying this, but I actually want Trump to win at this point. A Biden Presidency with a Republican Senate and an underwhelming electoral mandate would usher in a revival of Trumpism in 2024-with a banner carried by a more electorally formidable and "relatable" Republican candidate such as Hawley or DeSantis. Trump winning this year would give Democrats a fighting chance at a decent midterm in 2022 and the White House in 2024.

Just no. Another four years of Trump will be absolutely horrible, give us a 7-2 supreme court, more relentless attacks on democratic institutions and lead to absolute apathy amongst democratic voters, especially after this election result.

[BlueSwan]

Any idea what the national popular vote ends up as?

Not really, but Biden is winning the NPV big. I would suspect by around 5-6 million votes. Still much less than the polls indicated, but still horrendous if you can lose the election when you win the popular vote by that much. America is becoming a minority rule country.

[BlueSwan]

Just a very weird and disappointing election overall. Biden seemingly doing worse than Clinton in many working-class areas ranging from Youngstown to the Rio Grande Valley despite an admirable recovery in the Iron Range and New England. Even the denser white working class suburbs which I had thought were more winnable (Macomb, Long Island, Staten Island) have swung massively towards Trump with him currently leading in Nassau. Blue Dog Democrats like Bullock, Peterson, Torres-Small lost their races. A Democratic Senate looks increasingly unlikely and its clear that the dominant narrative will be that Trump defied the polls yet again even if Biden pulls through on the outstanding absentee ballots in the Rust Belt trio. Any semblance of moral victory against Trumpism or of a decisive electoral defeat for the GOP has been lost. At best, Biden will preside over a replay of Obama's second term with all the potential for midterm disaster and a rerun of Trumpism in 2024 that it entails.

I hate saying this, but I actually want Trump to win at this point. A Biden Presidency with a Republican Senate and an underwhelming electoral mandate would usher in a revival of Trumpism in 2024-with a banner carried by a more electorally formidable and "relatable" Republican candidate such as Hawley or DeSantis. Trump winning this year would give Democrats a fighting chance at a decent midterm in 2022 and the White House in 2024.

Just no. Another four years of Trump will be absolutely horrible, give us a 7-2 supreme court, more relentless attacks on democratic institutions and lead to absolute apathy amongst democratic voters, especially after this election result.

It's a choice between two evils for many. Biden's agenda will be blocked by McConnell, and Republicans would be poised to regain control of the House in 2022, ridding off anti-Biden backlash. Recent political history shows us that such an outcome is very possible.

Remember that IF Trump loses, we don't know what state the republican party will be in. They could be deeply split between those who wants more Trump and those who cannot get away from Trumpism fast enough. I have been anticipating that struggle and it is devastating to see that Trumpism may have prevailed in this election.

[BlueSwan]

One thing that has really caught my attention is how strongly Trump is performing in the popular vote. When the dust has settled, he’s likely to have received at least 10 million more votes than in 2016 and he is almost guaranteed to have increased his vote share, which runs contrary to the assumption that he was failing to expand his base.

Yeah, it frankly seems insane. Who the hell are these millions of people who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 but now suddenly love him. It really makes no sense at all.

[BlueSwan]

Biden has taken the lead in Wisconsin according to DDHQ.

I just checked, you're right! *internalized screaming*

1,551,268  49.29% Biden

1,549,127  49.22% Trump

Oh my God, do I dare getting my hopes up?

[BlueSwan]

We had an issue with the printer on one of our machines too...I was stuck at the precinct for an extra hour because I had to sign *one* receipt that wouldn’t print.

America’s election infrastructure remains terrible.

Why are absentee ballots being the last to be counted despite being the first to be received?

It looks incredibly suspicious that votes are suddenly materializing but only once they already knew what Trumps lead was from the people who turned up in person to vote.

Mainly because republicans in state houses and senates refuses to let polling places start the processing of mail ballots to start before election day itself.

[BlueSwan]

Can someone please tell me what’s going on in Arizona?

I just feel like I have to trust Foxnews on this.

Writing that makes me feel dirty.

[BlueSwan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DoomConnoisseur/status/1323936248973742080

 

That tweet is wrong.

[BlueSwan]

Uncle Joe finally over 50% nationally. Overall lead of 2,2 million votes and counting.

[BlueSwan]

It will be immensely frustrating if Biden clinches in WI and MI only to lose in NV.

[BlueSwan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but its almost a certainty that Biden is getting at least a comfortable majority of the outstanding Nevada mail ballots, right?

If it was a certainty, I think Foxnews would have called it as they have been fairly aggressive in calling states, unlike CNN.

Too much is uncertain in all of the remaining states to make any calls.